EV Digest 3901
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "James F. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: / MR2 power steering pump / on ebay
by John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) WVSL Poll Where do you live
by Joseph Vaughn-Perling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) [ Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?]
by W Bryan Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Tim Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Weep Holes
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Electronic Parking Brake
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Solectria Force with NiMH batteries needs help getting on the road
by shoko tanabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Jim Waite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "damon henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Electronic Parking Brake
by Bob Siebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
by "damon henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Re: Interstate Battery
by jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
by "Tim Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Drive your EV sideways
by Rod Hower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
18) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Ralph Merwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Steven Lough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Re: Thanks :)
by "Rmanzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: Galvanic Corrosion
by "Patrick Maston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Patrick Maston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
24) Re: Different kind of commute
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) Avcon Adapter
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: Thanks :)
by "Rmanzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Reinhard, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Gordon Niessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29) Re: Ideas for EV school visit
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
30) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Nick Aronoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
31) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by cristin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
32) Re: Different kind of commute
by Christopher Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
33) Unsubscribe to EV discussion list
by "Cameron-RR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
34) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Steven Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
35) Re: and Monsters..
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
36) Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
37) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Electro Automotive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
38) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Neon John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
39) Re: EV digest 3899
by Becky Moore-Poe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
40) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Sam Uzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
41) Re: Solectria Force with NiMH batteries needs help getting on the road
by Seth Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
42) Shifting smooth again, but for how long?
by Paul Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Matthews NC, 28104
James Jarrett
Danny Ames wrote:
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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Hello to All (and Steve),
Steve Clunn wrote:
> I've been working on the power steering for the nission 300zx all this
> weekend , and am finding that its taking a lot more power than I had though
> when you trun the steering wheel . I picked a motor that I though was rated
> about 1 1/2 hp 32v I ( looked like a better pick that the tread mill motor i
> also have) started with 3 to 1 ratio , now a 5 to 1 and still when the
> steering wheel is being trunned it slows the motor down to almost a stop ,
> I'm running it on 36v and am seeing 50 amp under load , so I'm looking at
> your e bay pump. any idea of the amps it needs to run on , at 12v this could
> be a lot .
> Steve Clunn
Shucks, Steve...I thought you read all of my posts! Maybe you just missed this
one from
just two months ago:
Subject:
Re: Has anyone fit an Electro-Hydraulic Power Steering Pump (EHPS)?
Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:11:46 -0700
From:
John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
References:
Hello to All,
Don Cameron wrote:
> I was reading the archives about power steering pumps and was wondering if
> anyone has actually found an EHPS unit (MR2 or Fiero) and fit it to their
> EV.
I wrote extensively about the MR2 unit I used in the now famous 'Red
Beastie'...perhaps
the archives don't go back that far. I may have been the first to use that
particular
unit.
> I am curious as to where they got the unit and how difficult is was to
> wire in to the system.
I found mine in a low mileage wrecked MR2, so the motor/pump system was 'as
new'. Back in
'97, I paid something like $110 for it. It was super easy to wire up.
In addition to its heavier gauge power feed wires, the MR2 pump also has a few
light gauge
control wires that interface to control module that can electronically vary
speed and
current, but I never got that module and simply used a small 100 A, 12V
continuous duty
'solenoid style' contactor to turn it on and off through its two heavier gauge
power feed
wires. The 3+ years I had this truck, and I believe to this day (it now lives
on the east
coast), the solenoid contactor and the MR2 pump have never failed and have
always worked
perfectly. Though saddled with a lot of weight on its front tires, the steering
effort of
Red Beastie was light and smooth, one of the nicest power steering 'feels' of
any vehicle
I've driven.
>
> Also I find it interesting that these units are quite small.
Yes, very compact.
>
> One web page indicated that the take around 15 amps at 12v.
Try again! As installed in Red Beastie, it 'idled' at around 15 amps, but
typically drew
25-40 amps during steering assists, and if one turned the steering wheel all
the way and
locked it one direction or the other, it pulled 50+ amps! In this heavy duty
electric
XtraCab Toyota truck (~5400 lbs. with its BIG pack of 40, T-105 batteries), I
had a beefy
Optima Yellow Top deep cycle battery as the 12V system's current reservoir, fed
by twin
DC-DC converters with a combined output of 70 amps. On dark rainy Pacific
Northwest
Fall-Winter-Spring nights, with the lights on, the defroster/heater blower on,
the wipers
going, and the Wayland custom stereo cranking away, heavy use of the power
steering would
pull down the usual 14+V system towards the low 13V-high 12V range as the
Optima would dig
in a supply the extra current needed. With the described full electrical load
scenario and
without that back-up supply from the Optima, the DC-DC's would have browned out.
Hope this helps.
See Ya......John Wayland
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Agoura Hills, California (Border between LA county and Ventura County on
the 101 Frwy)
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.. and here I thought I was going to be the only person showing up from
Indiana.
Indianapolis, IN
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 06:39:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "Bobby R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fort Wayne, IN
Bobby
--- Danny Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be interesting to find out how many
> different places and
> countries EVDL members are in.
> Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
> I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San
> Francisco.
> A few of you I have met this way.
> Cheers,
> Danny Ames
>
>
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Blossvale, NY
about 35 miles east of Advance DC Motors.
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Stay Charged!
Hump
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right!" --Henry Ford
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For those of you who have put a plastic sheet below the engine compartment
to aid in aerodynamics and to keep water out of the engine compartment, have
you had to bore small weep or draining holes in the plastic to let out any
water that did accidentally get in--for example, road spray that still got
in through the car's grill? Thanks.
Bill Dennis
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From: "Ken Trough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
> I'm going to create a global map with names and email addresses. I'll
> post a link when I'm done.
>
> -Ken Trough
> Admin - V is for Voltage Megasite
>
Hi Ken;
Great Idea! It's fun wading through where EVerybody is. Maybe were close
to EV touring when we can string EV Listers together for chargin' purposes.
Saw how many folks I passed by, close, in my yearly pilgrimage to Woodburn
from CT.
Let me " out" a few more!
Bill Glickman? Arent ya Listed anymore? @ Glastenbury, CT just outside
of Hartford. Then There's Jack Gretta, in Chester, 8 miles down the road
from me, HIS computer is down, I think? Ted Warner, in Middletown, unlisted
lately? Ted? That takes care of a few guyz in MY area code.Dave Cover?
Active on the List Lately. They ALL have running EV's Heartwarming when they
ALL show up at a Car Show! I KNOW there are others in CT, but I can't think
of them, OOPS! Yes!Woody Neely, used to be Listed? Woody?at the moment. Come
out where EVer ya are! Were just short of a EAA Chapter of our own, so we
make the 100 mile, once by Rabbit, Stopped in Glastenbury for a charge, at
Bill's, trip up to Tony Ascrixzzi's in Worcester MA, about 40 miles west of
Beentown, as the train flies.
We arent exactly a hotbed of EV activity, much more in MA, Boston area.
Hills COLD weather, general apathy as to energy conservation, although a tip
of the hat's due to the CT Solar Energy people based in Hartford, showing
the way with that sorta stuff. Things are happening, a little in CT. Hoping
to scare more folks out in the open, here<g>! Not like San Fran and LA where
you pick out an EAA chapter by WHAT part of town yur in.
Seeya
Bob
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I've been reading lately about a new type of parking (emergency) brake on
some cars, BMW and Audi for example. The brake does away with the cable
type system we're used to and replaces it with a computer controller system
activate by the press of a button. In addition, the system slowly releases
the break when you're starting on an uphill grade so that you don't have to
switch your foot from brake to clutch to keep the car from rolling
backwards.
Bill Dennis
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I have a friend that has purchased a Solectria Force
with NiMH batteries and needs help getting it back on
the road. The car has been sitting around for years
and all the batteries read zero. Will a few charging
cycles brings these batteries back?
- Will
Will Beckett, membership
4189 Baker Ave.
Palo Alto, CA 94306
(650) 494-6922
Become a member or donate to the Electric Auto
Association, donations are tax deductible.
http://eaaev.org/eaamembership.html
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Currently Santa Clara ("Silly-cone Valley"), CA
(formerly Redmond, WA)
Jim Waite
(working on BattcarII)
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Vancouver WA.
From: Danny Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: EV SEND MSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EVDL poll where do you live ?
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:11:09 -0500
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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Bill:
The EV1 had a similar parking brake.
/Bob S.
On Monday, November 8, 2004, at 07:17 AM, Bill Dennis wrote:
I've been reading lately about a new type of parking (emergency) brake
on
some cars, BMW and Audi for example. The brake does away with the
cable
type system we're used to and replaces it with a computer controller
system
activate by the press of a button. In addition, the system slowly
releases
the break when you're starting on an uphill grade so that you don't
have to
switch your foot from brake to clutch to keep the car from rolling
backwards.
Bill Dennis
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Somehow this statement made me envision Rich as Doc Brown in "Back to the
Future". Hey Rich how long until we can get our hands on a Green Mr.
Fusion!
From: "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:14:18 -0800
It's still cool to watch the lights dimm with every 10 amp command
jump.... And this is on a 100 amp 208 feed. The 200 amp feed.. will just
let
me Dimm the whole Buiness park.
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Hi Jim and All,
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey all:
>
> Has any one ever used or have an opinion on an
> Interstate battery SRN-27 deep cycle Mega-Tron
> battery? I have a car that it could work in, but
> would rather not buy a problem battery. FYI - I
> would use 10 12vdc for a 120vdc single string. Any
> assistance would be appreciated.
I'm not sure about that particular batt,
Interstate rebrands other people's batts so could be
anything. What was it's price?
You should be aware that 10 gp27 batts isn't going
to give you any range, 10-20 miles in most EV
conversions. And life may be short.
What kind of EV are you doing, weight, motor,
controller, trans, makes a big difference if a batt
will work for you?
HTH's,
jery dycus
>
> Jim
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Yep, that's what I'm waiting for....
I'm not getting an EV until I can have two point twenty one gigawatts of
charging power. So get going Rich, what the heck's taking you so long
anyway? ;->
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Stay Charged!
Hump
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right!" --Henry Ford
>
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of damon henry
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
>
>
> Somehow this statement made me envision Rich as Doc Brown in "Back to the
> Future". Hey Rich how long until we can get our hands on a Green Mr.
> Fusion!
>
>>From: "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
>>Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:14:18 -0800
>>
>> It's still cool to watch the lights dimm with every 10 amp command
>>jump.... And this is on a 100 amp 208 feed. The 200 amp feed.. will
>>just let me Dimm the whole Buiness park.
>
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Actually more for forklifts, but I'm sure it could be
used for other low speed EV's, go to
http://www.airtrax.com/
click on the link to view the video.
Pretty impressive when the front and back wheels go
opposite direction and the forklift drives sideways!
Rod
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San Jose, Ca
Steve Bischoff
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Portland, OR, USA
Danny Ames writes:
>
> It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
> countries EVDL members are in.
> Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
> I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
> A few of you I have met this way.
> Cheers,
> Danny Ames
>
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Seattle Wa. just 1 mile NE of the University of Washington
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Seattle EV Association
6021 32nd Ave. N.E.
Seattle, WA 98115-7230
Day: 206 850-8535
Eve: 206 524-1351
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web: http://www.seattleeva.org
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Ryan,
Eventually, yes, the metal will corrode and the rivets will lose their
holding ability, but it will probably take years to happen. If you're
going to keep the car for a while, it would be worth preventing this
corrosion. Zinc Chromate Primer is used for this purpose on aluminum
aircraft assemblies. If you've seen aircraft shows like Wing Nuts,
you've probably seen the green paint on the aircraft parts - that's Zinc
Chromate. It's available from Wicks Aircraft Suppy at this link:
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=9209~subid=2290/index.html
If you use this, paint it on the side of one of the metal sheets that
will be touching the other metal sheet and let it dry before assembly.
Dip the rivets in the primer one by one right before you set them in the
holes. This will form a film of primer between the two parts, helping
to prevent corrosion.
Patrick Maston
1981 Jet Electrica
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/6/04 9:11:08 PM >>>
Hi,
I've been using steel rivets in aluminum sheets. While welding up my
electronics rack with my brother today, he told me that joining
aluminum
and steel can be a problem due to galvanic corrosion. My question: is
my car going to disinegrate if I use steel rivets in aluminum? All the
rivets will be subject to the normal air humidity (low here in Utah),
but shouldn't have much other moisture on them. I don't see much I can
do about the rivets - I could use aluminum ones, but then they would be
going through the steel that the aluminum sheets are being connected
to.
I'm hoping someone will just say "it's no big deal, don't worry about
it", but if it will be a problem, I want to do something about it now.
My electric-heater element casing will have steel rivets through it
regardless - I'm not ripping my dash apart to fix that problem :)
Thanks,
Ryan
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The fastest-growing city in the U.S.: Henderson, Nevada. 5 miles south
of Las Vegas.
Patrick Maston
1981 Jet Electrica
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Huntington Beach, CA We have one EV dealership in town, Gorilla Vehicles, but
unfortunately, they just make ATVs.
Richard Kelly
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/474.html
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From: Danny Ames
Subject: EVDL poll where do you live ?
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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Chris Zach wrote:
>
> I'd just like to say that my son and daughter (with mom walking next to
> it) now use the Power Wheels Jeep (customized with better wire and a
> 26ah Hawker instead of that dopey FP battery) to commute to kindergarden.
>
> The commute is about 1/2 mile total (no roads, all trails) and is a nice
> walk in the morning for either me or my wife. The field we have to cross
> and the forest we have to go thru however are a bit much for the kids.
>
> So The 5 year old son drives it out with my daughter as a passenger, and
> my daughter drives it back and we walk alongide.
>
> So far it seems to be doing well: The dual motors on the PW have enough
> power to carry both kids (about 120lbs) plus the Hawker in the rear for
> stability. The recent cold weather has not impacted performance much
>
> Range seems to be about 5 trips on a charge, so with incidental driving
> it's about 3 miles. Not too bad.
Cool! They have to take the record as the youngest EV commuters!
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"Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed
citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever
has!" -- Margaret Mead
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Is it possible to wire up a homemade Avcon adapter or is the EAA Avcon a
good deal. The problem is the waiting period of 6 weeks. Anybody have a
unit used they want to part with. Lawrence Rhodes.......
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91214
La Crescenta, Ca
Tucked in the hills N.W of LA
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Katy, Texas - a bit West of Houston
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The first time I did a school EV demo was a 7th grade class at Barton
Middle School in 1996. I took my ComutaVan, which was *definitely* a
travelling science project! I also brought a big box of "finger food"
including:
- AA batteries
- small toy car electric motors
- clip leads
- a hand-crank generator
- solar panel
- radio
- flashlight
I started off with a basic description of electricity. I used the little
motors and batteries to show that a circuit has to be a complete loop.
That an "open" circuit stops everything, and a "short" circuit just
makes wiring get hot. They got a gut feeling for what "volts" and "amps"
mean (volts is how fast the motor goes; current is how much torque the
motor makes). The hand-crank generator and solar panel gave them a feel
for how you make electricity.
Then I showed them pictures of full-size electric cars, both old and
new, big and small, etc. Finally, we went outside and I showed mine off.
As it turned out, the movie "Race The Sun" came out just before this,
and some of the students had seen it. This is a movie about a class of
"laylows" (Hawaiian slang for the shop class type of kids) building a
solar car and competing in the international race. The class asked me if
I would help them build an electric car. I foolishly agreed. And that
was the beginning of BEST! See >http://www.bestoutreach.org>
This class went on to build "Sparky the Electric Chair", an electric
quadracycle out of old bicycle parts, broken classroom chairs, cafeteria
trays, etc. Since then, BEST has helped nearly 100 classes build their
own EVs, and discover the basics of science and engineering for
themselves.
My strategy has always been to provide the raw materials so the students
can discovered the principles themselves. I don't tell them the answers;
I let them figure it out for themselves. I'll say, "Gee; I don't know if
that will work. How can we find out?" It's harder, and it takes more
time. But you can't believe how excited they are when they discover the
answers for themselves! And you know what? The kids will often surprise
you, and discover solutions that you didn't know yourself!
The "subversive" aspect to this is that it teaches the kids to think for
themselves (horrors! :-) They discover that authority figures
(teachers, parents, etc.) do NOT have all the answers; and that many of
the answers they do have are really just opinions that can't be proven.
The *best* answers are the ones you can test for yourself, and prove
that they are correct.
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"Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed
citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever
has!" -- Margaret Mead
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Arcata, California, USA
(near Humboldt State University)
Do I have any neighbors on the list? I have seen a couple of other
electric vehicles around town...
-Nick Aronoff
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Los Angeles, CA. commuting daily to Culver City (gosh, a whole 15
miles!)
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Well, when I was a kid I really wanted to have toys that did *real*
things. I think (and the kids do too) that having a little toy car
actually do stuff is a totally cool idea.
Speaking of which: When I was a kid my grandfather had a "Fire Chief"
electric car. This was about 6 feet long, 2-3 feet wide, but made of
solid steel with a frame and a spot behind the seat that held a pair of
T105 batteries and had a starter motor or something bigger than that.
Heavy thing but really fun to drive. It's gone now but I have always
wondered what it is. Any idea?
Chris
Lee Hart wrote:
Chris Zach wrote:
I'd just like to say that my son and daughter (with mom walking next to
it) now use the Power Wheels Jeep (customized with better wire and a
26ah Hawker instead of that dopey FP battery) to commute to kindergarden.
The commute is about 1/2 mile total (no roads, all trails) and is a nice
walk in the morning for either me or my wife. The field we have to cross
and the forest we have to go thru however are a bit much for the kids.
So The 5 year old son drives it out with my daughter as a passenger, and
my daughter drives it back and we walk alongide.
So far it seems to be doing well: The dual motors on the PW have enough
power to carry both kids (about 120lbs) plus the Hawker in the rear for
stability. The recent cold weather has not impacted performance much
Range seems to be about 5 trips on a charge, so with incidental driving
it's about 3 miles. Not too bad.
Cool! They have to take the record as the youngest EV commuters!
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Could anyone possibly help me to get off the discussion list? It's been so
long, I don't remember.
Thank you,
-Cameron
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Hi everyone,
I'm in Hyde Park, NY, USA near Poughkeepsie (about halfway between New
York City and Albany NY) on the Hudson River. A couple of hours from Bob
Rice...
My S-10 pickup conversion is currently off the road due to mechanical
problems in the chassis and a lack of time to fix them (but I still
drive it around the neighborhood). The electrical parts are just fine.
It's in the EV Photo Album, although I have made some changes since
those photos were taken by the previous owner.
Steve Wilson
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As I recall Doc Brown... had a problem with VERY LARGE base speakers.......
I too, seam to have this problem.
All us Techies... know that the Flux converter... in the back seat of
the Delorean.... was a 3phase Y connected diagram for AC motors. Just that
it was lit up like a
Search light when driven hard.
I would love to bolt one into the back window of my Fiero...and then dump
1.16 Jiga watts into the drive motor. Ok Ook..... how aobut 1.16 Mega
watts.....That's only 2 Zillas....
Pu239 powered batteries...... I LUST for them.
Oh Ok back to reality...
REAL life crazy stunts. Using the MOnster to power Goldie. Well it's
cold up here in the middle of Pungent Sound. So.. you want to warm up the
lead. First pass, the 1.1 miles from home to the shop... all the Red Low
batt light at a paltry 400 amps... Crap she's cold!! log in the master
PFC50, load the software, Joe hits Go... and in about 5 seconds we hit the
180 volt limit, and never get to more than 40 amps.... OK bump it up to 185,
then 190... No big amps and the Regs are NOT blinking.....We let the amps
spool down to 15, and Away I go into the night, Goldie Scratching for
traction....OK this is aLOT better....Back up the "Race course"... It's
twisty, dark and foggy, and I am drifting Goldie.... Ummm not the saftest
mode of emptying the old Yts...The Back strech is about 3/4 of mile of
straight two lane highway. No dash lights, no tach, just a screaming 8
incher and the old Raptor.... Ahhh.... a Fix for Madman. The Brakes are damn
Good, and the Pit lane has a stop light and ferry traffic...Humm
obsticles... OK, Back to Sublight....a hard right brings me drifting into
the shop buisness park.I have not yet drifted all the way to the shop door.
You will all love this... No horn on Goldie... But the tires Bark!!! a
polite application of amps... and Joe runs the over head garage door
up...Yea... I need to find a 30 ft over head door opener. Chirp Screach and
I drift to a stop within the length of the main stinger on the Monster
charger, Joe has the hood up, and the stinger on before I get my butt out
of the cockpit. I have to slam home the darn CMC blues, darn they take a
LOT of force to mate and unmate. I gotta work on that.
Joe yells clear!,and I confirm, and the lights start that really funny
dimm dance dimm as the Code loads down the pair of shinny Green boxes
harnessed into the Monster. Yea I live for this kinda fun. Yea we are doing
R&D....Yea right....
In 770 seconds we have 2.2 kw back on board, and the Regs are starting
to complain... "Empty it again Rich"... "Yes Sir Right on it Joe!" The over
head opens and I slide Goldie back out into the Black cold night... Beams to
high... Scotty... Maximum Warp if you please, ferry traffic is held at the
light... wait .... wait.... wait.....ENGAGE!, 2nd to the Rev limit, 3rd...
GEEEZZZZzz this old girl is still a handfull at max amps, left right torque
steer, and I just get here shut down for the hard hard right hand turn, and
I was catching the back side of the traffic break. I am sure the guy in the
SUV had some skittish thoughts as a funky looking old Fiesta with the high
beams on closed on him at 2x the posted limit, only to break so hard that
the high beams are pointing into the ground about 20 Ft in front of the
front rubber. All break, Lift dial in the 120 Deg turn, reach max lat Gs,
and SMOKE ON!, around the corner....Then it gets tough... and gutsy, you
have two dimensional corners... up and left right, and no sight distance,
point Squirt.. pray, all over the brakes.... point to next brake point
Squirt, hang on!! Drift around the Gravel pit... Nope that's not the place
to go at 80 mph and sideways... Ok the other lane is available, ...... 2
points for blowing the Gate cone, keep the hammer under controll..... dial
it back out Stand on it., and toss out the anchor... for the next stop
sign... The right now is back against the Ferry traffic, they are on coming,
I have a few quarter miles of clear right lane, Smoke on.... HUmmm she's
softer than a few hundred Watt hours ago.... 3rd gear..... yup all the
Lowbats are complaining... 4th gear.... and the E-meter is , well Lets not
go there. Time to lift fool.....Ok I am still well into the $200 ticket
range, There's funny noises from the rear battery pack, head for the barn
Goldie.
Yea... funnn!!!
In the shop I have all the interconencts warming the plexaglass, one
wing nut is melting the plastic and the copper is a nice blue color... My
Dave Cloud 2000 amp interconnects are hot. Well, that's a surprise...I
didn't think that could be done with a lowly Raptor.... OK... there are some
racing mods that have to be done before the Zilla goes into Goldie... I
think we did the 1.8 Kwhr recharge in about 600 seconds.....We will do
better this week. The 8 incher was almost too hot to touch... and this with
a 3 minute discharge cycle....The brakes were rather hot, but not
smoking... just about right. So even with 30 Deg F air temps, and 60 to 100
mph of ram air.. you CAN over heat a AvDC 8 incher. The Raptor of course
didn't flinch....He really likes cold air....About the way a Bald Eagle
likes Salmon.
I do this again, and I am going to need to add cooling to the 8 incher
while we are charging.....
My racing helmet might also be a really good idea.....Turn workers, and a
real track might keep me alive longer.....
Mr. Fusion... I can't talk about it, it's in development.... Ya Know NDAs
and all... gotta keep it quite.... Goverment work you all know how that
goes...
god I hope they don't read this EVDL....
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From: "damon henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
> Somehow this statement made me envision Rich as Doc Brown in "Back to the
> Future". Hey Rich how long until we can get our hands on a Green Mr.
> Fusion!
>
> >From: "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
> >Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:14:18 -0800
> >
> > It's still cool to watch the lights dimm with every 10 amp command
> >jump.... And this is on a 100 amp 208 feed. The 200 amp feed.. will just
> >let
> >me Dimm the whole Buiness park.
>
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From: "Tim Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: 50A 230V connectors, and Monsters..
> Yep, that's what I'm waiting for....
>
> I'm not getting an EV until I can have two point twenty one gigawatts of
> charging power. So get going Rich, what the heck's taking you so long
> anyway? ;->
>
OK I am going to need 2 500KV feeds, better call Bonneville power and have
them start installing the towers....
4420 amps at 500Kv......
Wow...did I do the math right???
Of course please specify the DC transmission lines.
Does this mean you are going to let me build a PWR Nuke Fast Flux
reactor???? I think everybody needs one for his personal power supply.
Just don't spend a lot of time around my garbage cans.....
Yea I am this crazy, and I don't do drugs, and I have not had my Pac
Northwest High Octane Mocha yet.
Gotta do green boxes
later folks.
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We are just outside of Santa Cruz, CA, on the coast and in the mountains,
about 75 miles south of San Francisco.
Mike & Shari
Electro Automotive POB 1113 Felton CA 95018-1113 Telephone 831-429-1989
http://www.electroauto.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electric Car Conversion Kits * Components * Books * Videos * Since 1979
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Cleveland, TN
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Cleveland, Occupied TN
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SF, CA
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nope
Seth
On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:18 AM, shoko tanabe wrote:
I have a friend that has purchased a Solectria Force
with NiMH batteries and needs help getting it back on
the road. The car has been sitting around for years
and all the batteries read zero. Will a few charging
cycles brings these batteries back?
- Will
Will Beckett, membership
4189 Baker Ave.
Palo Alto, CA 94306
(650) 494-6922
Become a member or donate to the Electric Auto
Association, donations are tax deductible.
http://eaaev.org/eaamembership.html
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I didn't see any leaks in the hydraulic lines, master or slave cylinders
for the clutch in my truck. I then looked in the fluid resivoir and
found it to be empty. The resivoir only holds about 2 tablespoons of
fluid and it was gone. Since I see no leaks, I am assuming that clutch
friction plate wear has consumed the fluid due to more resting volume in
the slave cylinder.
I had to take the slave cylinder out of the transmission to bleed the
system when I added fluid. While I was under the truck, I opened the
inspection plate on the side of the transmission to see if anything
looked wrong. I found lots of red dust coating everyhing in the bell
housing. I could see the transmission front main bearing retainer. I
didn't see any signs of oil leakage around the retainer or anywhere else
in the bell housing.
My conclusion is that the friction plate has worn quite a bit and may be
glazed. This might explain the continued shuddering from a standing
start when using the clutch.
If I had to add fluid to the clutch to get it to fully disengage again,
does this mean that it's time to replace the friction disk?
Paul Wallace
'91 Chevy S-10 full of SAFT nicads
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