EV Digest 5109
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) New Kits
by Reverend Gadget <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: Zombie at DragTimes Web Site
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) RE: the old NEDRA Charter
by "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) EV Music?
by Marvin Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Re: EV Music?
by Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Re: EV Drag Racing in France: F.I.A. world records
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: the old NEDRA Charter
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: QD taperlock bushing PN needed
by mike golub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Contrabassoon & Electric vehicles. TV news story.
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: Paralleling and Serialing Controllers
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: Paralleling and Serialing Controllers
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: the old NEDRA Charter, posted wrong URL
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Roderick Wilde resigns as NEDRA President
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) is this a good idea?
by "Dale Curren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Zapi H2 user feedback sought
by Mark Freidberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: the old NEDRA Charter
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: is this a good idea?
by Evan Tuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) Re: Roderick Wilde resigns as NEDRA President
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
19) Re: QD taperlock bushing PN needed
by "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Re: Stripped Terminal
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: Roderick Wilde resigns as NEDRA President
by Jim Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Re: One day away till Battery Beach Burnout
by "STEVE CLUNN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) RE: Roderick Wilde resigns as NEDRA President
by "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Re: is this a good idea?
by Kevin Coughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) Re: Contrabassoon & Electric vehicles. TV news story.
by "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: Contrabassoon & Electric vehicles. TV news story.
by Mike Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) Any consensus on controller reliability?
by Mark Freidberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Left Coast Conversions wants to offer some new kits to
the conversion market. We believe that the rising cost
of fuel will continue to bring new users to the ev
market. The cars we choose should have enough units on
the road to be able to find gliders. They should also
be cars that people will want to drive. So far we are
looking at a PT cruiser and a Miata. What other kitw
would you all like to see available? Thanks in advance
for the input.
Gadget
visit my websites at www.reverendgadget.com, gadgetsworld.org,
leftcoastconversions.com
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This makes it extremely hard for people coming to this site to ignore the
fact that EV drag racing does exist and is here now. We still have the rest
of the month to vote so keep them coming. I can't wait to see when John has
doubled the votes of the former first place gas car. What a hoot! and what a
great day for EVs in general and EV drag racing.
Roderick Wilde
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From: "Pestka, Dennis J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: Zombie at DragTimes Web Site
Just checked and the Electrics have made it!
Top 3 spots.
Dennis
Elsberry, MO
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From: Bob Rice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Zombie at DragTimes Web Site
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From: "John Wayland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: Zombie at DragTimes Web Site
Hello to All,
I've submitted the 1/4 mile specs for White Zombie to the following site:
http://www.dragtimes.com/
At this opening page, under the section 'Recent Drag Racing 1/4 Mile
Times', you'll see White Zombie boldly listed as an electric car..it's a
clickable link. Upon clicking the link, you'll see the spec page for
White Zombie. It's down-right funny when you peruse the stats page, as
there are mostly 'none' lists for all the usual stuff they expect you to
have in a drag car....Pistons (none).... Sparkplugs (none)....Camshaft
(none)....Transmission (none)....you get the idea, great fun!
Hi John;
I voted for ya! Cool sight, thumbed through it, lottsa fun, Rolls
Royces' times as well as Hummers, Iron I didn't think ASYBODY raced. I
coulda beat the Hummer with my Rabbit IF I had a stoughter, less slippery
clutch, and put the T Wrecks controller in<g>!Be faster than the Acela
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in one min. The pix you have is just fine, ya didn't use my
flashover one from Woodburn! I'll chek out Matt's car, too.
Seeya
Bob
I goofed and sent a very low rez thumbnail off a video clip, as the
feature photo, and it looks tacky. If any list members have a good photo
of WZ they'd like to see there instead, send it to me, and I'll pick my
favorite of what i receive and resend it to the site. You can vote for
the car for it to be a featured car at the opening page, so let's stack
the deck to get an electric car put up as the featured car...that should
get the gasser dude's attention! Matt's terrific twin motor 240SX is
also at this site, so votes for his car would be great, too.
See Ya.....John Wayland
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NEDRA sounds out of control.
Hopefully members' cars remain under control.
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Remember the old SchoolHouse Rock song about "Electricity"?
Marv
Culver City
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I have the SchoolHouse Rock DVD ... and it's on there.
Marvin Campbell wrote:
Remember the old SchoolHouse Rock song about "Electricity"?
Marv
Culver City
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Thanks much for posting this information. It is very timely indeed!
Roderick Wilde
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From: "Philippe Borges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: EV Drag Racing in France: F.I.A. world records
F.I.A. world records
http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/recordregs.html
cordialement,
Philippe
Et si le pot d'échappement sortait au centre du volant ?
quel carburant choisiriez-vous ?
http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr
Forum de discussion sur les véhicules électriques
http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr/Forum/index.php
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From: "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:47 PM
Subject: EV Drag Racing in France
> Philippe, why don't you start promoting EV drag racing in France. Log on
to
> this site http://promotop.org/francedrag/modules/news/ and go to forums
and
> tell these people there are electric cars drag racing in the US. Tell
them
> about NEDRA www.nedra.com. Give them links to see the White Zombie"
doing
a
> wheelstand on launch. This should arouse some interest. Over a year ago
> NEDRA was contacted by the US representative for F.I.A. Fédération
> Internationale de l'Automobile drag racing asking if we would be willing
to
> send a couple of our top cars to Europe to do exhibition runs. Nothing
ever
> came of it as it was too late that year to get it organized. Hey
Philippe,
> could you do me a favor and try to find where F.I.A. world records are
> listed online. I can not find it on their site. Are there other French
> people on this list or are you the only one?
>
> Roderick Wilde
> President, NEDRA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philippe Borges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Zombie at DragTimes Web Site - voting
>
>
> You are happy EV men, i WANT EV drag racing in france !
> Stop waiting , let's make it happen !
>
> cordialement,
> Philippe
>
> Et si le pot d'échappement sortait au centre du volant ?
> quel carburant choisiriez-vous ?
> http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr
> Forum de discussion sur les véhicules électriques
> http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr/Forum/index.php
>
>
>
>
>
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As I said before, PLEASE, PLEASE take this off list. It does not belong
here. We have created a list for those interested in NEDRA affairs. Go there
and talk about this PLEASE and leave this list for EV related topics. For
NEDRA related issues go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roderick Wilde
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From: "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: the old NEDRA Charter
NEDRA sounds out of control.
Hopefully members' cars remain under control.
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So did you buy both the adapter plate and the
taperlock hub from electroauto?
--- Roland Wiench <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Mark,
>
> The first thing you do is to make reference
> measurements on the bolt circle pattern on the
> devices that you are going to bolt to the motor
> adapter.
>
> My bolt circle is at 3.5 inch diameter for my GE
> motor. The smallest Taper-Lock Adapters that fits
> over the Taper-Lock Bushings is at 3.25 inch
> diameter, so the Adapter.
>
> The next larger one has a inside diameter of 2.75
> inch and a outside diameter of 3.5 inch. The next
> one has a inside diameter of 4.125 inch.
>
> So a flywheel flange with a 3.5 inch bolt pattern
> will not work.
>
> A Taper Lock adapter will have to be machine to with
> enough inner and outer diameter so it can be tapped
> for the bolt holes of the device you want to bolt to
> it.
>
> This now requires the machinist to make a Adapter,
> that has a taper bore to fit the taper lock busing,
> key it, install three tapped bolts for installing
> the bushing and three tapped reversed tapped bolts
> for removing the bushing, cut splits and than the
> metal has to be heat treated to a spring like
> specifications, so it will not crack at the split
> joints.
>
> According to Dodge, it is best not to have the
> adapter collars too thin to the inner and outer
> walls of the adapters for a certain torque value, or
> they will crack.
>
> I found it was cheaper for me to purchase one from
> Electro Automotive. They normally have them in
> stock. They are over 2 inches deep and six small
> cap screws to install the adapter on. The taper
> lock adapter has a large enough face on it with a
> insert lip for installing on to flywheel or flange
> shaft that goes to a transmission or driveline. If
> you are using a transmission, than a transmission
> pilot bushing is install into the bushing.
>
> Roland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark
> Ward<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:40 PM
> Subject: QD taperlock bushing PN needed
>
>
> I have the Dodge Taperlock bushing catalog and am
> hopeful someone can save
> me some time by letting me know which QD bushing
> is typically used for the 1
> 1/8 inch shaft Warp and ADC motors. There are
> about 11 pages of
> taperlocks!
>
> I have to order one and get it and the 4130 steel
> barstock to a machine shop
> for my hub to be made up.
>
> Any advice appreciated from someone who has
> already made up their own.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mark Ward
> St. Charles, MO
> 95 Saab 900SE "Saabrina"
>
>
www.saabrina.blogspot.com<http://www.saabrina.blogspot.com/>
>
>
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Two controllers in parallel can't be done. However what will work is two
controllers and two motors. If you want a 144 vdc controller/motor combo on
the cheap then use two L91's and two Altrax 72v controllers. . Cheaper
better faster........144 is always divided by two. LR>........
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From: "David Dymaxion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: Paralleling and Serialing Controllers
I can hear the chorus of "Bad idea" already! Has anyone actually
tried paralleling 2 controllers for more current, or putting 2
controllers in series to handle more voltage?
My thoughts are paralleling might work if they had equal current, and
big enough capacitors that either controller could take full current.
Similarly, it seems if you had big enough capacitors neither
controller's transistors would see full voltage.
My thoughts were motivated by seeing Curtis sepex controllers. They
seem to have lots of nice features, and are pretty cheap. 80 Volts
and 600 Amps is a bit wimpy, though! Might they survive being put in
series? Would it help to parallel them with some big capacitors?
Thanks in advance for the education.
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Could two controllers work on a series motor? There are 4 connections.
However sharing the com might be very very bad. Could a motor be modified
to allow two controllers to work on it. Seems possible if two independent
windings were installed. A 72v 8 inch with two Altrax controllers. Motor
more expensive controllers cheaper. Lawrence Rhodes....
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From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Paralleling and Serialing Controllers
I can hear the chorus of "Bad idea" already! Has anyone actually
tried paralleling 2 controllers for more current, or putting 2
controllers in series to handle more voltage?
While it's possible to parallel two controllers, it's not as easy as
simply hooking the outputs together.
The controllers need to be sychronized so that the FETs turn on and off
together. Other wise one might be off while the other is on, and then as
soon as the one that's on switches off, the other could switch on.
Net result would be that instead of getting 1/2 throttle like you want,
you get full throttle. Of course, just to make things interesting, this
effect will vary as the slightly different frequencies of the controller
come in and out of phase. So you go from exactly the throttle position
you want, to twice the speed, and then back.
In order to synchonize the controllers you normally need to have the
brains of one controller drive the power sections of both controllers.
This is easy if the controllers are designed for it. However, if they
aren't designed for it, this could be almost as complicated as building a
controller from scratch and could easily result in a couple blown
controllers.
Running them in series isn't going to work.
If they aren't synchonized then as soon as one is on and the other is off,
the one that's off will see full pack voltage and the FETs will blow.
Even if you could figure out how to synchronize two controllers at
different voltage potentials, there is no guarantee that the voltage will
divide evenly between them so you'll probably end up letting the smoke out
of the FETs.
I'm not sure how you were thinking about using the capacitor, but it won't
help anyway and might just make things worse.
My thoughts are paralleling might work if they had equal current, and
big enough capacitors that either controller could take full current.
Similarly, it seems if you had big enough capacitors neither
controller's transistors would see full voltage.
My thoughts were motivated by seeing Curtis sepex controllers. They
seem to have lots of nice features, and are pretty cheap. 80 Volts
and 600 Amps is a bit wimpy, though! Might they survive being put in
series? Would it help to parallel them with some big capacitors?
Thanks in advance for the education.
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Here is the direct URL for the new NEDRA group on Yahoo
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA/ My apologies.
Roderick Wilde
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From: "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: the old NEDRA Charter
As I said before, PLEASE, PLEASE take this off list. It does not belong
here. We have created a list for those interested in NEDRA affairs. Go
there and talk about this PLEASE and leave this list for EV related
topics. For NEDRA related issues go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roderick Wilde
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From: "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: the old NEDRA Charter
NEDRA sounds out of control.
Hopefully members' cars remain under control.
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Effective immediately I am resigning my position as NEDRA President. It has
been a pleasure serving the electric drag racing community and the EV community
these many years. I am somewhat proud of my accomplishments for the sport and
for the furtherance of EVs as viable forms of alternative transpotation. I was
a founding member of NEDRA in 1997. In 1999 Bill Dube and I succeeded in
getting electric vehicles legalized on NHRA tracks and in their rule book. We
later did the same for electric junior dragsters. Bill writing the rules and I
as a public relations liaison with the NHRA. I was also involved with Chip
Gribben with ideas that he implemented on the website. I originated the
Rannberg Cup Memorial Award in remembrance of our dear friend and fellow racer
Ed Rannberg who passed on. I also instituted the 100, 125, and 150 mph clubs so
that the pioneers of our sport who first broke 100 mph would not be forgotten.
Their world record at the time would later be removed from the website once
someone bested their time. One of my recent projects included working with the
NEDRA rules committee on a clarification of the "one sentence" class
descriptions that worked well for so many years when there were less than a
dozen racers in the entire world. Times are now changing and for the better
with even more events. My latest endeavor has been developing a dialog with the
F.I.A. (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile) www.fia.com so that NEDRA
members could hold "World Recognized" speed records. I really hope someone
takes up this task after I'm gone. I can not stress how incredibly important
this is for the sport. Leaving NEDRA will give me much more free time to pursue
a project I have started that will take me all over the world. I am in the
process of writing a book on the History of Electric Land Speed Racing from
1898 to the present. For anyone interested in any other of my other projects go
to www.rideablecommunities.org, an educational organization I formed dedicated
to reducing our dependence on oil. I also regularly blog at www.particpate.net,
the group that produced the movie Syriana. For further information on NEDRA
issues go to http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA/
Roderick Wilde
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A friend and I have been playing with an electric car. It currently has 4
batteries in series (48v) and a got-for-cheap curtis controller that is rated
at only 48 volts. All works well so far and very little has been spent. To
further our what-can-we-do-for-next-to-nothing project, we had the idea to put
two more batteries in the series but AFTER the controller. We would use a
manual switch to insert these two batteries in the series after we're already
full throttle using 48 volts. We call this "afterburner" mode.
Will this allow our 48 volt controller to feel no more than 48 volts of
pressure, thus keeping it happy.
Dale Curren
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The Curtis 1221 controller in my 1980 Electra Van is overheating easily. Not
surprising since there's no heatsink, no fan, and ventilation appears limited
where it is located.
I'd like to replace it with some other controller, and provide adequate
cooling for the replacement. The Zapi is of interest because of its regen
braking potential. What have user experiences been with the Zapi?
Mark Freidberg
EAA member
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I will make this very Clear
I voted for Rod. We have had our issues...
I will stay by Rod through this "family tussle"
Clear heads need to prevail here folks.
Rich Rudman
Manzanita Micro
Repeat Event Sponsor
Charter NEDRA member #19.
> Dean Grannes
> Acting NEDRA Steward"
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On 1/20/06, Dale Curren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A friend and I have been playing with an electric car. It currently has 4
> batteries in series (48v) and a got-for-cheap curtis controller that is rated
> at only 48 volts. All works well so far and very little has been spent. To
> further our what-can-we-do-for-next-to-nothing project, we had the idea to put
> two more batteries in the series but AFTER the controller. We would use a
> manual switch to insert these two batteries in the series after we're already
> full throttle using 48 volts. We call this "afterburner" mode.
I don't think that's a good idea, Dale.
Although you may be at full throttle, if the controller goes into
over-current or over-temperature limiting, it reduces the duty cycle.
With batteries in the motor loop, you will probably fry the diodes in
the controller.
For another thing to try, you can get a reasonable speed boost by
doing "field weakening" - use your switch to put a low value resistor
(such as a wire coat hanger!) across the field terminals.
Another option would be to fit four more batteries and build a series
/ parallel "rectactor" arrangement instead of using the Curtis, search
the archives to find Lee Hart's diagram of this.
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From: Roderick Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:45:50 -0800
Subject: Roderick Wilde resigns as NEDRA President
<<Effective immediately I am resigning my position as NEDRA
President.>>
That's a shame. We'll be lucky to get a replacement who is 1/2 as
energetic and committed as Rod.
I just wanted to publicly acknowledge Rod for his years of service,
and wish him well in his new endeavers.
Thanks!
Ben
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I bought the adapter plate and the taper lock hub that fits a 1994 Chevy C10
for a V-6 engine, that I install on a Warp 9 motor, but using a 1975 style bell
housing and transmission which still fits any GM machines.
The GE motor I have is now being remanufacture by a GE motor shop, which they
will install new comms. brush holders, shaft, bearings and a new wire that is
better than the class H type, it has a built in endplate which is the adapter
plate that fits any transmission or bell housing and has built in motor mounts
which can replace a 350 cu.in. engine in the same location.
This is the reason they call it a true traction motor.
The existing motor adapter for the GE motor is a press fit type, that you must
put both ends of the motor shaft in a hydraulic 20 ton press and press on the
adapter. The adapter has four large 3/8 cap screws that are place at 90 degree
angle to each other.
This adapter must be pull off with a large bearing splitter that supports a
large steel beam that supports a hydraulic ram against the motor shaft. It
explodes all at once when removing the adapter.
Every time the adapter is remove, the bore must be built up with a soft bronze
alloy. This material is shave off each time the adapter is press on and off as
well as the motor shaft which must be turn each time and the motor bearings
must be replace each time.
So not to put up with that hassle each time or when to get a very fine
adjustment, I have ElectroAuto make me up a identical one to match the
existing, except in a taper lock.
Roland
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From: mike golub<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: QD taperlock bushing PN needed
So did you buy both the adapter plate and the
taperlock hub from electroauto?
--- Roland Wiench <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> Hello Mark,
>
> The first thing you do is to make reference
> measurements on the bolt circle pattern on the
> devices that you are going to bolt to the motor
> adapter.
>
> My bolt circle is at 3.5 inch diameter for my GE
> motor. The smallest Taper-Lock Adapters that fits
> over the Taper-Lock Bushings is at 3.25 inch
> diameter, so the Adapter.
>
> The next larger one has a inside diameter of 2.75
> inch and a outside diameter of 3.5 inch. The next
> one has a inside diameter of 4.125 inch.
>
> So a flywheel flange with a 3.5 inch bolt pattern
> will not work.
>
> A Taper Lock adapter will have to be machine to with
> enough inner and outer diameter so it can be tapped
> for the bolt holes of the device you want to bolt to
> it.
>
> This now requires the machinist to make a Adapter,
> that has a taper bore to fit the taper lock busing,
> key it, install three tapped bolts for installing
> the bushing and three tapped reversed tapped bolts
> for removing the bushing, cut splits and than the
> metal has to be heat treated to a spring like
> specifications, so it will not crack at the split
> joints.
>
> According to Dodge, it is best not to have the
> adapter collars too thin to the inner and outer
> walls of the adapters for a certain torque value, or
> they will crack.
>
> I found it was cheaper for me to purchase one from
> Electro Automotive. They normally have them in
> stock. They are over 2 inches deep and six small
> cap screws to install the adapter on. The taper
> lock adapter has a large enough face on it with a
> insert lip for installing on to flywheel or flange
> shaft that goes to a transmission or driveline. If
> you are using a transmission, than a transmission
> pilot bushing is install into the bushing.
>
> Roland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark
> Ward<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> To:
>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:40 PM
> Subject: QD taperlock bushing PN needed
>
>
> I have the Dodge Taperlock bushing catalog and am
> hopeful someone can save
> me some time by letting me know which QD bushing
> is typically used for the 1
> 1/8 inch shaft Warp and ADC motors. There are
> about 11 pages of
> taperlocks!
>
> I have to order one and get it and the 4130 steel
> barstock to a machine shop
> for my hub to be made up.
>
> Any advice appreciated from someone who has
> already made up their own.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mark Ward
> St. Charles, MO
> 95 Saab 900SE "Saabrina"
>
>
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Yes, this seem to be plenty of area. Several threads of M20 size.
In such situation I'd feel more uncomfortable with fixed thread
as it is critical component. If it strips due to vibration,
your terminal will overheat and the plastic underneath melt.
Do you want a photo of this? I can take one, I have such a terminal.
M20 thread can be tighten very hard, no risk to strip. But, it's fewer
threads. So the contact area is about the same.
Well, try to fix the threads for good first - you can always go to
the plan B if this fails.
Victor
Bill Dennis wrote:
That's what I mean Victor. Incoming current flows from lug to the big nut
on outside of the terminal post. But then to get from the big nut to inside
the battery, doesn't the current have to flow through the big nut's threads
through the terminal post's threads? Whereas when you use the M8 hole,
there's a large contact area which is the top of the terminal post itself.
Bill Dennis
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Hey Rod
It was with a heavy heart that I read this post. I wish you the very best on
your future adventures. Growth pains are a fact of life. With the ever
increasing amount of racers and events I can only imagine the issues faced by
you and the other board members. Add to that fact that there is no way to
please every racer with these new rules it must feel like even your best
efforts fail in some way. I hope that all involved, both memebers, and board
look toward the future and growth of this fledling sport. I also hope that
time will ease the issues between all as each and every one of you have a gift
to share. Each of us are an ally to the other if we so choose to act as such,
face it we are all aimed at the same target! I guess I just wanted to say that
I hope this has not overshadowed all the great works and new events that are
slated for 2006 nor the past efforts and works done by NEDRA and it's board and
members.
Gods speed to you and to all
Jim Husted
Roderick Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Effective immediately I am resigning my position as NEDRA President. It has
been a pleasure serving the electric drag racing community and the EV community
these many years. I am somewhat proud of my accomplishments for the sport and
for the furtherance of EVs as viable forms of alternative transpotation. I was
a founding member of NEDRA in 1997. In 1999 Bill Dube and I succeeded in
getting electric vehicles legalized on NHRA tracks and in their rule book. We
later did the same for electric junior dragsters. Bill writing the rules and I
as a public relations liaison with the NHRA. I was also involved with Chip
Gribben with ideas that he implemented on the website. I originated the
Rannberg Cup Memorial Award in remembrance of our dear friend and fellow racer
Ed Rannberg who passed on. I also instituted the 100, 125, and 150 mph clubs so
that the pioneers of our sport who first broke 100 mph would not be forgotten.
Their world record at the time would later be removed from !
the
website once someone bested their time. One of my recent projects included
working with the NEDRA rules committee on a clarification of the "one sentence"
class descriptions that worked well for so many years when there were less than
a dozen racers in the entire world. Times are now changing and for the better
with even more events. My latest endeavor has been developing a dialog with the
F.I.A. (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile) www.fia.com so that NEDRA
members could hold "World Recognized" speed records. I really hope someone
takes up this task after I'm gone. I can not stress how incredibly important
this is for the sport. Leaving NEDRA will give me much more free time to pursue
a project I have started that will take me all over the world. I am in the
process of writing a book on the History of Electric Land Speed Racing from
1898 to the present. For anyone interested in any other of my other projects go
to www.rideablecommunities.org, an educational organiza!
tion I
formed dedicated to reducing our dependence on oil. I also regularly blog at
www.particpate.net, the group that produced the movie Syriana. For further
information on NEDRA issues go to http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA/
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well I woke a 3 am and got the lights out , wasn't the clutch was my hub
that held the fly wheel , made a direct coupler and evething it back in
place and time for a test drive , if it goes I'm off , if not I'm off to ,
see ya at bbb.
steve clunn
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From: "STEVE CLUNN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: One day away till Battery Beach Burnout
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Husted" <Burnout
Hey all
I bet all you racers are in freak mode now arn't you, lmao!
I was till about 4 today when I finnly put in the 2k zilla , around the
block , more go peddle and then, the clutch lets go . was just getting it
broked in it to , well I'm still going , but I promissed to work on Paul's
car friday , so mine is dead in the water. .
Steve Clunn
Although I will not be able to attend I have 2 small motors that will be
flying the Hi-Torque colors there, and well I've been crawling out of my
skin all week as the date approaches. God I hope today goes by fast as I
just don't know how much more waiting I can stand! Hope everyone has a
great time. be fast, be safe, and best of luck to all.
Cya all
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
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Correction: NEDRA is now "wildely" out of control.
We owe a lot of thanks to Rod and all the others in our sphere who've
brought EV awareness and performance to where it is today.
Best of luck-
-Myles Twete, Portland, Or.
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I think that once you put the other two batteries "in series" with your 48v
"battery" (your controller) you will actually have your flow THROUGH the
controller.
How about a few contactors - connect all 6 batteries in series, and run a tap
after 4 batteries into the controller, then when you hit "afterburner" you:
1: disconnect the controller output to the motor
2: connect the FULL six batteries to the motor.
That gives you an unbalanced pack for charging - since 4 get used much more
than the other two, but you can work that out - this is an experiment, after
all.
Be aware of your disconnects - with the entire pack afterburnered into the
motor, if you weld the contactor closed you won't stop. While not as scary as
Wayland doing that on the drag strip with 100's of volts, you still will wish
you had some way, ANY way, to have a second option to disconnect. And maybe a
third....
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From: Dale Curren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:00:11 PM
Subject: is this a good idea?
A friend and I have been playing with an electric car. It currently has 4
batteries in series (48v) and a got-for-cheap curtis controller that is rated
at only 48 volts. All works well so far and very little has been spent. To
further our what-can-we-do-for-next-to-nothing project, we had the idea to put
two more batteries in the series but AFTER the controller. We would use a
manual switch to insert these two batteries in the series after we're already
full throttle using 48 volts. We call this "afterburner" mode.
Will this allow our 48 volt controller to feel no more than 48 volts of
pressure, thus keeping it happy.
Dale Curren
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Cool!
Dave
From deep within our secret soul
do demons dwell and take their toll
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From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Contrabassoon & Electric vehicles. TV news story.
http://kntv.feedroom.com/index.jsp?auto_band=x&rf=sv&fr_story=1e4da9dabd6c36eb4faae9003bcdb440284a7a4e
Lawrence Rhodes
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I took a look but when the second non-ev story started I gave up. Am I just
being too impatient?
-Mike
On 1/20/06, Lawrence Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> http://kntv.feedroom.com/index.jsp?auto_band=x&rf=sv&fr_story=1e4da9dabd6c36eb4faae9003bcdb440284a7a4e
> Lawrence Rhodes
> Bassoon/Contrabassoon
> Reedmaker
> Book 4/5 doubler
> Electric Vehicle & Solar Power Advocate
> 415-821-3519
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is there any consensus amongst list members as far as which dc motor
controllers (in applications of 96v and above) are the more reliable ones?
Mark Freidberg
EAA member
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