On 7 Jan 2013 at 20:30, Hoegberg . wrote:

> Also in the race, the Norwegian Pivco. (Later Ford bought it and rename
> it to "Th!ink" ) Im almost sure that they did use STM100 -5 cell from
> SAFT-NiFe in the cars. water-cooled NiCd 6V 100Ah 

If I recall correctly, they did indeed use STM5-100MRE liquid cooled modules 
in the early Think models.  Even earlier Pivco Citibee prototypes used SMT5-
100MR (air cooled).

> That type of "cell"-blocks are still running here! For example in the
> most of our old Renault Clio electric cars. Sometimes the old ones can
> have small separator problems..and a cell/block might go **BANG**. 

This was a problem with early STM5-100MR[E] modules, produced I think before 
2000 or so.  

I don't think it affected the larger, golf-car battery size 180MR modules, 
which I'm pretty sure were of an earlier design.  I don't know about the 
140MR modules.  These weren't as widely used, but were of similar design to, 
the 100MRs.

More information on this problem here :

http://www.evdl.org/docs/saft-failures.pdf

Failure rate can usually be minimized by limiting the drive current to ~200 
amps (2C).  Thus the battery's power ability is low; a 180v battery would 
deliver only 36kW.  

If memory serves, Axel Krause of Brusa used early STM5-100MRE modules in a 
Mini-Evergreen for around a decade, with a 250 amp max Brusa inverter.  He 
drove this EV for a 220km (!) Alps transit in 1997.

http://www.brusa.biz/index.php?id=43&L=1

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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