I was thinking on adding to the CCS system a function that would basically prevent on running too fast or aggressively. You set the point in the navigator where you are going and the system calculates the average requirements to get there. According the speed limits and elevations. In that mode you could just slam the pedal and the system takes the power level to aceptable regim.
In the case of misusing there was (with LiNiMnCo-cells) clear low area in the cell. 0% SOC in the display was on 15% SOC in the actual cells. The reserve that could be activated with a code but when used it would take few months out of the warranty. We did some thinking in eCorolla project too and few eGUI images are on this page: http://www.sahkoautot.fi/lehdistoe:kuvitusmateriaalia Two needle indicator is a good idea. It kind of shows the gap that you should actually hit in the real life. Worst and best case scenarios. Nice idea ! Very informative and useful. You would see with a glance if you're driving like mad. You would be staring the worst case needle and be a bit sweaty all the time. The range gap between the needles would be jumping all the time. Needle one would be "range with current consumption". Like in the ICE's. Needle two would be the average on past miles. Should there be a needle three to state what the car could do if you'd know how to drive (?, over inflate the tires, windows closed,no AC, blower in 0, drive on 2 wheels, etc. ) :D -Jukka 2013/2/18 Martin WINLOW <[email protected]>: > Yes, I like that idea. Perhaps you could have 2 different coloured needles > on the same gauge - one for 'ideal' and the other for 'like now'. > > Let's not forget though, that most EVers are going to use the EV for doing > the same trip every day and once they find out they can drive it without any > range concerns, the whole range anxiety thing goes out the window. > > For the long distance trip though, ultimately, once a thorough charging > infrastructure is in place, your in-car display will show your route overlaid > with options as to when/where to charge, reminding you, no doubt, when things > start to get a bit marginal. Again, range anxiety is not an issue. > > MW > > > On 18 Feb 2013, at 13:52, Ed Blackmond wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2013, Lawrence Winiarski wrote: >> >>> I personally think the whole "estimated range" is a recipe for disaster. >>> Trying to make it idiot-proof isn't going to work. There are too many >>> variables that can affect range (headwinds, traffic, speed, hills, >>> temperature). Idiots don't know that an "estimate" is an "estimate". >>> When you want to make something idiot proof, you need to think about what >>> George Carlin said: >>> >>> >>> "Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize 50% of >>> them are even stupider than that." >>> >>> So here's a possible answer. Set your range estimation software to the >>> absolute worst case scenario reasonably possible. So instead of >>> Estimated range, you say "estimated range" and >>> "guaranteed range". Now, I personally think that might not be the worst >>> thing in the world. You exceed your guaranteed range and you are >>> responsible. Meanwhile >>> you can use an estimated range for when you want to push the limits, >>> knowing that you may very well have drive very very conservatively and you >>> are on your own. >> >> I agree that a single estimated range number is useless. There are two >> numbers that are important: how far can I go driving exactly as I'm >> driving now, and how far can I go driving under ideal conditions. The how >> I'm driving now number will vary wildly as you drive. It will go way down >> when accelerating hard up a steep hill and go way up coasting down hill. >> The ideal number will be much more stable. >> >> The way to present this information is with a graph or gauge. The how am >> I doing now needle on the gauge would vary from a low of zero to a high of >> the ideal needle. The ideal needle would vary from the vehicle's maximum >> range to zero. Under most driving conditions, the ideal needle would be >> monotonically decreasing. When stopped, the how I'm driving now needle >> could change to an average over some period of time. >> >> This type of instrumentation would be clear to anybody. In less than five >> minutes of driving people would begin to develop techniques to keep the >> now needle as close as possible to the ideal needle. You would also know >> what is possible. If the ideal needle indicated 25 miles and you needed >> to go 50 miles you would know you had to recharge before attempting the >> trip. If the now needle showed 10 miles, but the ideal needle showed 50, >> then a little adjustment to driving style would make the trip possible >> without a recharge. >> >> As long as the range indicators present only one number they will be >> almost useless. Present the driver with the information needed to make >> driving decisions in the clearest possible way without any extraneous >> information. But don't leave out crucial information. >> >> Ed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > > Regards, Martin Winlow > Herts, UK > http://www.evalbum.com/2092 > www.winlow.co.uk > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130218/71431b5c/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
