I had some strange Zilla issues once that turned out to be noise in the RPM sensor. The sensor signals weren't being picked up properly so the controller cut power to the motor after it detected a "stall" caused by a faulty RPM signal. My EV would move forward a few feet before the Zilla cut power to the motor. Foot off the pedal, back down, and the EV would move another few feet...

Might also check to make sure the throttle isn't partially on when starting your EV. Could be the Hairball is waiting for the throttle to go completely off before applying power. It's at least something that could be weather/temperature related. Having partial throttle applied can also affect serial communications with the Hairball (at least according to the manual). If you have serial communications, you can check the throttle input data.

The fact that your controller stopped responding when updating your BMS also sounds fishy. That smells like electrical interference. Maybe try isolating the cable between the Zilla and Hairball a bit more. Does it still have the ferrite bead?

-Adrian

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:35:02 -0700, Iron Mountain Films <ironmountainfi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I hope the brain trust on this list can help I am sending all this info to Manzinita Micro also. first the good news I am back on the road after almost a year, now with a pack of 45 CALB CA grey cells. When I can get the car to go it is awesome, which is most of the time. On my first attempt after install of the new pack, I tested without the Orion BMS hooked up, motor spins; Hook up Orion BMS aux (bms) contactor closes and motor spins; put the car down car backs up and pulls foward, I open the gate to take it for a test drive,

then it wouldn't precharge and hairball shows error and contactor off
LEDs (I believe this is normal) Hooking up to Mac with z term original error was newest 1111 Cleared codes and then got a 1113 EEPROM crc error and then lost
communication   Tried on pc laptop in hyperterminal but not working   I
then hooked up a bulb to ck engine light and did serial port shorting
plug procedure and got a 1311 waiting for key. I then sent the Hairball to Manzinita Micro after talking to a tech. They checked it out and updated firmware and found no problem. I re-installed in the car, still no worky kept getting waiting for start error, I then checked my start signal and no start signal (hooked to starter relay on key). I bypassed that and just put in a microswitch to give me a start signal and the car worked. Very big Grin.
I took multiple trips without problem.

The first time it wouldn't go was after charging, the car is warm it is about 75 or 80 degrees. The weird thing is the Orion closes its contactor and the Zilla precharges Hairrball shows green led contactor on, but the car wont go. this has happened 3 or 4 times. Each time I have left the car after trying to get it to go including powering down the zilla completely, (that actually worked one time), and after it has cooled down or I come back to it, it fires right up. The codes I am pulling are 1312, waiting for start, 1133 lost communication with controller during use,either direction. (I believe this happened when while trying to trouble shoot I sent a new profile to the bms to turn off thermistors while driving no throttle applied, throttle stopped responding) 1231 propulsion pack open, no contactor drop, controller not responding; 1241 key input not on while key is asserted; 1111 no more dtc's On Previous occasions the
 error sequence was the same but without the 1133 code.


The Zilla has been very reliable I bought it in 05. I have read that it should be in a sealed box Mine is mounted on a heat sink above the motor not in a box. Maybe sitting around for a year it has collected moisure?



Mike MalmbergIron Mountain Films, Inc
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