Yeah, that Chevy Spark is another candidate, because of the size. Unfortunately, Chevy/GM stuck their collective foot in the mud with their emasculation of the EV1. I swore I would never buy another GM product after what they then. On the other hand, if they would resurrect one for me, I might change my mind :-)

Yep, 409 was an interesting one (called the W engine, if I recall). But with that 400 ft-lb of torque, I bet that Chevy Spark could just about twist the tailshaft off of one old V8s. That's an astonishing amount of torque!

On 5/3/2013 2:43 AM, Pat Dawson wrote:
Well I saved my pennies and I saved my dimes (gidyup, gidyup, gidyup 409), 
before I knew there'd come a time (gidyup, gidyup, gidyup 409), when I would 
buy a brand new 409 (gidyup, gidyup, gidyup 409).

Sounds like the 2014-2015 Chevrolet Spark EV may be your ticket.  Smaller than 
the LEAF, $25K or less after incentive, 400 ft. ft. of torque (why I relate it 
to the fabled 409 of my youth).  You can't build that at home.  You lucky West 
Coasters can buy it this summer.  Don't make me come out there.

Pat


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Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [EVDL] devil's advocate on buying a Leaf


Noticed in the paper a day or two ago that one of the SF Bay Area Nissan
dealers is offering Leaf leases for some-$3000 down and $99/mo.  I think
Fed/state tax credits are still after that.  A fellow EVDL'er allowed me
to drive his Leaf at the 2011 Stanford Rally - nice car, new tech...
although bigger than I need.

My nearly twenty year old (1994) VoltsRabbit conversion is due a battery
plant (#5) this fall, scheduled for Sept.  Sixteen US2200 6V'ers plus a
couple of spares is going to be on the order of $1700, although I have
not checked battery prices recently.  Getting some rust bubbles under
the paint around the rear side windows (don't know how hard it is to
deal with that), and the fenders are beginning to rot again (had that
dealt with in the body work in 1996).  Old technology, but still
interesting and still works.  I put it together with my own hands, and
all the sweat equity is there.

But it's getting harder and harder to be a devil's advocate about taking
the plunge to a new EV such as the Leaf.  Probably one more battery
plant for another 3-5 years, but, sigh...

Chuck
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