Correction accepted! (I get too used to mph - which isn't meters per hour:)
-----Original Message----- From: David Nelson [mailto:gizm...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 May, 2013 10:03 AM To: Peri Hartman; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: RE: [EVDL] 2011 or 2012 leaf - 60 miles at 65 MPH - NO WAY! Even 4m/kWh is lousy. Even 1609m/kWh is lousy. See, m/kWh is meters per kilowatt-hour. I assume you mean mi/kWh, miles per kilowatt-hour. Sorry my humor was missed in the last post. David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 Windows Phone 8 From: Peri Hartman Sent: 5/11/2013 6:54 To: David Nelson; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: RE: [EVDL] 2011 or 2012 leaf - 60 miles at 65 MPH - NO WAY! True. It seems that Nissan designed the regen to primarily work when going over 30mph. I can get 4m/kwh on the "right" roads. However, 90% of my driving is under 30mph combined with a lot of hills and the physical brakes do most of the slowing down. I hope they changed their algorithm for 2013. Peri -----Original Message----- From: David Nelson [mailto:gizm...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 May, 2013 11:30 PM To: Peri Hartman; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: RE: [EVDL] 2011 or 2012 leaf - 60 miles at 65 MPH - NO WAY! Peri, You get some lousy efficiency. 2m/kWh has to be the worst efficiency. Even 3m/kWh is lousy. Now if you mean mi/kWh that is a completely different scenario since there are about 1609m in 1mi. David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 Windows Phone 8 From: Peri Hartman Sent: 5/10/2013 17:15 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2011 or 2012 leaf - 60 miles at 65 MPH - NO WAY! If I need to know my range, I use the SOC "peacock" gage in combination with my own m/kwh readings. This is rare as most of the time I have ample charge for the trips I take. For example, in cool rainy weather, I know I'll get around 2m/kwh for stop & go traffic and 2.5 for smoother travel. Or, on the freeway, I get around 3m/kwh. Then I consider each "feather" on the peacock gage as 8% of 24kwh and use that to get a rough idea of remaining kwh. Finally I take my estimated m/kwh and multiply that by expected miles to travel. Google does a good job of determining miles. Apparently with the 2013 model, it directly gives you remaining kwh - wish I had that. The main point is to remember m/kwh for various types of trips. The center "multigage" display (just over the steering column) has a setting that you can easilty reset and accumulate a relevant average. Peri -----Original Message----- From: ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of David Rees Sent: 10 May, 2013 1:13 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2011 or 2012 leaf - 60 miles at 65 MPH - NO WAY! On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:55 AM, David "Battery Boy" Hawkins <batteryb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyway, while I was at the helm, she > broke out the owner's manual and attempted to turn on the H-VAC fan > without the range on the Guess-O-Meter dropping, but she couldn't do > it, so we ended up just cracking the winders as needed for > ventilation. Doesn't it seem strange that you can't even put the H-VAC > fan on low without dropping the range noticeably? The GOM has that nick-name for a reason - while it seems to be more accurate on the 2013, apparently it still has the annoying flaw of dropping 10% GOM range just by turning on the HVAC. What you will find though is that after it runs a while, it gets a better estimate of actual effect on range and that number generally lessens. -Dave _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
