Martin WINLOW wrote:
Hi Peter, Would you be prepared to tell us all what that 3.5 years of lead cost?

I'm not Peter, but have bought quite a few packs of lead-acid batteries over the years.

My first EV (back in 1975) used twelve 6v golf cart batteries. I bought them for $28 each. I murdered them from ignorance and abuse in about 6 months and a few thousand miles. The next set lasted about twice as long.

My second EV (1978) used fourteen 6v EV-106 golf cart batteries ("advanced" at the time). They cost about $35 each. I got about 2 years and 10k miles out of them. I went through a couple more packs, gradually honing my skills at not committing "batricide", so I could get 10-15k miles on a set.

My third EV (1987) used twelve 6v golf cart batteries from Sam's Club at about $40 each. They lasted about 18k miles and 7 years, though I did replace one of them at 5 years.

My fourth EV (1997) got twelve 12v 95ah Concorde AGMs at $127 each. They lasted me 7-10 years and about 12k miles (the first one failed after 7 years, 6 lasted the full 10 years).

My present EV has fifteen 8v golf cart batteries, bought from Sam's Club for 77$ each in 2010. They're still going strong.

Independent from this, I've worked with many others and their EVs. I'm also constantly getting batteries of all types, and testing them (in hopes of finding something better than lead). I have BB600 nicads, GM EV1 nimh batteries, half a dozen types of lithiums, and many more. My overall conclusions are:

 - Lead is still the cheapest to buy initially, and lowest cost
        per mile.
 - Golf cart batteries have the greatest range and lowest cost per mile.
 - AGMs last half as long and cost twice as much, but are cleaner and
        offer faster acceleration.
 - Nimh are great; but you can't get them.
 - Lithiums are promising. 3x the range, but over 3x the cost of lead.
        They only pay for themselves if the life claims turn out to be
        true. So far, none of the lithiums I've tested except A123
        cells have met their specs. In particular, most lithiums are
        shot in 3-5 years.
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