Very interesting website.  I'm encouraged so far. The best chart is the one
that shows capacity vs miles.  More like that are needed as well as cap vs
time.

I think the issue regarding the cells is whether those going into the Teslas
are, in fact, consumer grade cells.  I've seen numerous references stating
that they are similar to laptop cells, but none saying that they *are*
laptop cells.  For example, Tesla could be buying the cells from Panasonic
(or whomever) but specifying some small changes to give them better
characteristics.  Anyone know the real answer?

The other factor is, I'm fairly certain, that Tesla has a much better BMS
than most laptops.  Is that significant enough by itself?

Peri

-----Original Message-----
From: ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf
Of Kevin Sharpe ZCW
Sent: 08 October, 2013 11:43 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range


>I did said "most" cells. And "most" cells go into various consumer
>products, that pay negligible attention to cell life. I'm sure this is
>part of the reason for short life.

Sorry but I'm not sure why we are discussing "various consumer products"
on EVDL... I assumed your comments were related to cars... Is that
incorrect?

I assume you've seen the recent PIA battery study which shows how well
'commodity' cells are performing in Tesla cars;

http://www.pluginamerica.org/drivers-seat/battery-study-updates

Regards,

Kevin Sharpe | Founder & Patron | Zero Carbon World

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