I agree.  Mostly collecting such info is harmless but, once it's collected,
it can be misused.

It would be better if they collected more sanitized information.  For
example, rather than recording GPS coordinates, they could compute and
record distances (not vectors with directions), acceleration, braking,
speed, current state of charge, and other things that would help them build
cars to meet people's driving habits.

Maybe consumers, the ACLU, and other organizations can push for something
like this.

Of course, without an independent audit, you still wouldn't know what they
really collect :)

Peri

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Electric Blue auto convertions 
Sent: 23 October, 2013 7:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] peeping toms

Im very concerned about any one that can turn a switch and see what im
doing, in my house, car or phone and computer, It is a very serious concern,
and many dont see it that way.. "the more they know, the more you loose" 
Cars that can send back info on your driving habits? thats just wrong, and
they do it because its a way to get inside your wallet one way or another,
"they" will use this info for a mileage tax, a way not to pay an insurance
claim one way or another .track your every move, if "they": need to see what
your up to. 

I could give a shit if I pass 4 gas stations and run out of gas, thats my
problem, not some car company that wants to use the info as a "in your face"
tactic for a response in one way or another. 
My cell phone is so old that "they" couldnt trace it unless I was talking to
"them" to begin with. All my vehicles have Gen 1 gps, its a friggen map . 
The so called black boxes are in all new cars now, one more way to have big
brother watching your every move if they choose to . Its not paranoia, its
the future that here right now, 
You asked for it and here it is at a neighbourhood near you . 
>From a book from the 50s, The sheep look up.. you cant see them, but they
can see you, you cant heart them, but they can hear you. that little click
on your phone...guess who 

nuff of me on my soap box 
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