In the 1990's Honda sold an ICE Accord that had zero emissions. In LA it made cleaner exhaust than what it aspirated. (Ignoring the CO2) The meaning if zero is slippery, but the point is still there - even ICE can be pretty good WRT to clean air, if not carbon.
A main problem with H2 is inefficiency and if the source of the power to make the H2 is not clean and renewable then it is a poor choice. It is better to take solar and wind and charge batteries than to use the electricity to form H2, storing the power in H2, then "burning" it in even less efficient fuel cells. With batteries less is wasted and cells like LFP are quite environmentally benign, lithium titanate will be even better. The hardware needed for H2 generation and use is considerably more complex and expensive than the solar to battery path. We have an H2 demo in the building beside my lab here, the electrolyzer is run with a kW solar array of thin film on the roof. You would not be able to have this in your own garage, it is far too expensive, so H2 cannot be dispensed at home, which is quite a nice thing about BEVs. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Old news. > > > http://www.arb.ca.gov/planning/vision/docs/vision_for_clean_air_public_review_draft.pdf > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 25, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > - this is news to me. Care to elaborate? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140625/92a8367d/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, "The summer day." To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com <michael.e.r...@gmail.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140625/218bd414/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
