Mark, The fact that you shifted from the technical discussion about Hydrogen Fuel Cells into a discussion about person, I conclude that you have no other defense and thus I will leave the issue as it is - unsupported.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:ma...@enviropolicy.com] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:51 AM To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts > On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Mark, > > I asked you to give background for your absolute statement that an > unproven technology is the only solution I did not, and have never said that. I said: "It is just not feasible to meet clean air requirements with just battery electrics." And you really think I said "unproven technology"? If you want to to say I made an absolute statement, you ought to get it at least partially right. You've signed the note as a "Chief Scientist." Is that how exacting you do science? > > and all you offer is a hopelessly hopeful vision paper with possible > scenarios, that has no background as to > > *how* they expect that the magical solution they hope to achieve can do > what they promote it to be? > > Sorry, but the emperor still has no clothes. > > > > It really is telling to me when Fuel Cell promoting organisations are > pulling out of Hydrogen Fuel Cell > > promotion, because they have done the math and concluded that there is > no future in Hydrogen Fuel Cell > > technology, since it is an energy sink, besides its obvious problems, it > is simple physics that make the > > Hydrogen Fuel Cell completely unattractive except in a few niche > applications such as in space. > > And maybe in California, as long as the money is flowing into this > "promising" technology... > > > > As always - time will tell. We will be left with a few nice EV > conversions unless Toyota only leases it... > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > <http://www.proxim.com> > Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > <http://www.cvandewater.infom> > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > ________________________________ > > From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:ma...@enviropolicy.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:21 PM > To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts > > > > Old news. > > > > http://www.arb.ca.gov/planning/vision/docs/vision_for_clean_air_public_r > eview_draft.pdf > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 25, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > - this is news to me. Care to elaborate? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140626/f29c db4d/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
