There a number of inverters available (Some for RV would be suitable, and almost all of them (Except ones for sailboats)operate from 12V.DC so add a strong (High Amperage) DC/DC converter to drive the home power inverter from the pack using the DC/DC to match the voltages. Might be less expensive than a Gen-set, and will be more reliable...(I would add a couple of deep cycle RV batteries to power the inverter for the 120 V.AC, to the home and use the DC/DC to charge them up from the car EV Pack so if you need to run an errand you still have the house emergency circuit powered..All the equipment could be installed at the house, there is no advantage to carrying it around in the EV.
Dennis Lee Miles (*evprofes...@evprofessor.com <evprofes...@evprofessor.com>)* * Founder: **EV Tech. Institute Inc.* *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913 (12 noon to 12 midnight Eastern US Time)* *Educating yourself, does not mean you were **stupid; it means, you are intelligent enough, **to know, that there is plenty left to learn!* * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss <http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss> * On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:28 PM, robert winfield via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Prius UPS > http://www.priups.com/others/ > > Another web page dedicated to using a Prius as an emergency 1kW generator > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 7/26/14, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Subject: [EVDL] Designing in additional incentives to increase plugin > purchases > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2014, 7:13 AM > > > > I've posted about the U.S. Government's push for V2G, and we > all know of > CARB regulations making it painful for Automakers if they do > not make an > effort to get credits so they can sell their profitable ice. > But there are > likely items plugin-makers could design-in to increase > plugin sales. > > Today' plugin buyer's current incentive is saving money at > the pump. The > original, 'saving the planet' impetus is now less important > to today's > plugin buyer. They are more concerned about their view while > standing in > their wallet. It isn't until later 'after' their plugin > purchase that they > begin to understand what 'we' already know: all the many > other benefits of > driving Electric. > > While I hope my current health issues don't make me miss the > annual Silicon > Valley EVent at De Anza College on Sept. 20 10a-4p > http://eaasv.org > I been thinking a lot about what the public talks about each > time I have > gone. That got me thinking of what other incentives plugins > could have > built-in to their designs to give even more sway/weight to > help with plugin > purchases. > > Recently, the U.S. east coast dodged a bullet, as the > hurricane was not as > bad as in previous years > http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/04/us/holiday-weather/ > Hurricane Arthur races off East Coast, dumping rain but > doing little damage > > So, I began to think, if the power is out at your home, what > are the most > important items to keep powered if a level-1 power source > was made available > (like if the home owner had a small genset)? > > I would think it would be the refrigerator, a cell phone > charger, and > another low power device (TV/radio, tablet/netbook/laptop, > etc.). A 120VAC > 20A source should easily handle that. > > Given that the chance of being without power is far less > likely throughout > the year, the purchase of a small genset and the fire hazard > of keeping a > can of fuel around may discourage some home owners from > getting one. > > But, what if that plugin (EV or plug-in-hybrid) came with a > built-in level-1 > (L1) outlet powered by an inverter drawing from the > vehicle's pack? > > -The home owner on a skinny/frugal budget would just run an > extension cord > to the refrigerator to keep it powered up. > > -At an additional cost, there may also be a way to have a > 'local V2G/UPS > system' that would kick-in if there were a power outage. > > As in: the house would be wired so that a specific 120VAC > 20A outlet which > powered the refrigerator, and the other devices are plugged > into it, which > would automaticall switch to use the power from the plugin's > pack if their > was an power outage. I am not saying that local V2G would > supply power to > the outside grid. Just a small setup to keep a couple > critical/important > electrical items powered. > > Hospitals, Hi-tech and other companies usually have a small > UPS that lasts > long enough for an outside genset to kick in, else allow > their computers to > shutdown cleanly before all the UPS power is spent. So, > having a plugin > offering a L1 outlet would be like having a UPS power > source. > > This would be a good point in favor of purchasing a plugin > as it could also > be a power source for: > -home emergencies (like a power outage) > -out in remote areas where there is no power (picnics, > camping, etc.) > - +more uses > > In the case of a pih, the plugin-maker could design an idle > mode that would > charge the pack while it is being used as the forementioned > L1 power source. > In a pinch, a pih could recharge an EV enough to get it to a > public EVSE. > > While the typical pih 20 to 40 mile e-range may have a > smaller pack (~11kW) > when compared to a ~70-90mi EV, the power of several pih > could be > tapped/ganged/combined for a greater shared kW capacity > (multiple pih in the > family). > > The plugin buyer could justify the plugin purchase price > because now they do > not need to buy and maintain a genset and or deal with its > chemical fuel > hazard (or old gasoline going stale & gummy). > > This idea is not likely new, as many plugin owners have > bought an off the > shelf inverter to use off their 12V battery. But that is > much more > inefficient than powering the inverter directly off the high > voltage pack. I > am saying there is a business opportunity to provide > plugin-makers with a > off the shelf inverter product that could be integrated into > the vehicle's > design, and or offered as an add-on option on later plugin > models or > EV-conversions. > > > Note: I had this idea before Google's Inverter Challenge > newswires came out > > > http://transportevolved.com/2014/07/24/googles-1million-power-inverter-challenge-revolutionise-way-use-electric-car/ > Google's $1 Million Power Inverter Challenge Could > Revolutionise The Way You > Use Your Electric Car > July 24, 2014 > > > http://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-news/google-launches-1m-power-inverter-challenge/62753/ > Google launches $1m power inverter challenge > 24 July 2014 > > > > Views, comments, corrections welcome :-) > > > > > For all EVLN posts use: > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=evln&sort=date > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Designing-in-additional-incentives-to-increase-plugin-purchases-tp4670553.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list > archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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