Have you looked at the split duckless ac units.

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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Roland via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> </div><div>Date:08/03/2014  7:24 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
</div><div>To: Jan Steinman <j...@ecoreality.org>, Electric Vehicle Discussion 
List <ev@lists.evdl.org>, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org </div><div>Subject: Re: 
[EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC? </div><div>
</div>Before selecting a A/C unit, a calculation of how much heat gain or lost 
there is between a inside surface of a structure and the outside structure. 

One ton of A/C is equal to 12,000 bturs. 
3420 bturs equal 1000 watts. 

The formula is:   bturs = SF x u factor x TD

SF is the square foot area of the exterior surfaces 
U is equal to 1/R  
TD is the Temperature Difference between the temperature of the outside surface 
to the inside surface. 

Calculation for a passenger compartment of a vehicle not insulated:

Single pane class is 1 R-Factor 
Single panel of sheet metal is 1 R-Factor 

Therefore the u-factor is 1/R = 1u. 

For heating loss, we use 100 F. degree temperature difference (TD) to maintain 
a interior temperature of 70 F. at 30 below 0. or TD = 100 

For A/C heat gain, we use a 70 F. degree temperature difference (TD) to 
maintain a interior temperature of 70 F. at 140 F ambient or TD = 70

The calculation which I use for my EV: 

My SF = 175 SF of the interior passenger 
The u-factor would be 1/1 or 1U if not insulated
The TD = 70 F.

Therefore:  

Btur's = 175 SF x 1 U-factor x 70 F  TD =  12250 bturs. 

One ton of A/C = 12000 btur's

Minimum size of A/C unit will be 12250/12000 = 1.02 ton

Adding insulation which I install two layers of 1 inch soft foam in the door 
panels and firewalls.  Insulated the floor with 1 inch of firm DOW blue board 
foam with a layer of 1 inch soft foam and carpet.  This reduce the btur's to 
about half. 

Heating only takes 640 watts at 120 vac 60 hz (continuous ON) at 0 F.  If I 
want the heater to cycle, than I switch in another 740 watt heater.  The power  
 comes from my rotating inverter/alternator that is rated at 7kw. 

Roland   
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  From: Jan Steinman via EV<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> 
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  > From: Ben Goren via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>>
  > 
  > ... are there heat pump systems rather than compressor units that might be 
more energy efficient?

  The compressor-based system in almost all consumer things that reduce 
temperature *is* a heat pump.

  The only one that I know of that is different is the "Einstein evaporator" 
used in many multi-powered camping refrigerators.

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result in a reduction of human numbers, and possibly individual diversity, 
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diversity. -- David Holmgren
  :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::

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