I tend to agree... The HOV lanes in the Bay Area are generally almost as full as any other lane nowadays due to all the single person EVs in them. So any advantage on those grounds is really muted.
I suppose my point is that there are various incentives that apply to new EVs that are not extended to conversions, and so back to the original post, I don't think there's as much interest in conversions simply because it doesn't offer the incentives of buying new. Furthermore, I think if the government was to really get behind conversions, I fear they would implement some fairly strict implementation, inspection and verification requirements that would make it more difficult to do. Things like weight requirements that are in place in other countries, that really impact the implementation of converting a car which wasn't designed from the ground up as an EV into an EV. That would effectively kill most conversions right there. Regards, Stephen On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > It was a rude awakening to me when I realized that all the Greatness of an > EV to solve all our problems does not apply to congestion (unless one > switches to an electric bike). So I have not been a supporter of HOV > stickers for EV's. > > HOV stickers for EV's with only 1 person in them does not make sense. AND > it just adds to anti-EV sentiment... Doing more damage than long term > gain... > > Bob > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:53 AM, George Tyler via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > Well, if you had Elon Musk on your side maybe he, with his resources, > could > > get this changed, as well as other laws around EV's > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de > Water > > via EV > > Sent: Friday, 26 September 2014 3:21 p.m. > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] co-operation > > > > I too have tried to get HOV stickers, but the agency providing the > sticker > > have made a very narrow interpretation of the California laws, where it > > indicates that all qualified vehicles should get a sticker (clearly > > meaning: > > all zero emissions vehicles) the agency has changed their interpretation > > and > > enforcement to only give stickers to vehicles where the *manufacturer* of > > the vehicle has certified that the vehicle qualifies (meets a set of > rules > > that they have defined). > > I am doubting whether this was an attempt to kill interest in EVs in > > general > > by making it unattractive (difficult) to qualify for HOV stickers, but it > > certainly causes all pre-existing and self-converted vehicles to become > > disqualified from HOV stickers, which sounds arbitrary. > > Anyway, the interpretation of the agency causes this and it seems that it > > is > > an incorrect interpretation of the law. Either a lot of pressure on this > > agency or a lawsuit might be needed to change this interpretation - or > > enough politicians that hear from their (EV driving) constituency and > make > > it explicit to the agency that they must issue stickers to *all* EVs. > > > > Cor van de Water > > Chief Scientist > > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > > Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Stephen via EV > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:06 PM > > To: HARSHA GODAVARI; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] co-operation > > > > How about getting a conversion to be recognized with the same incentives > > that are provided with most new EV sales? I converted my own car, at my > own > > full cost, with no tax breaks or other incentives, and now can not even > get > > a HOV sticker in California, even though the CA DMV and state BAR have > both > > verified it as a pure electric vehicle and is fully exempt from any > future > > smog certification. > > > > In the end, I did it for the savings in fuel costs, the silence, and it > > leaves me open to do whatever performance increases I want without any > > limitation (e.g. smog certification. It would be nice though to get to > use > > that car pool lane ;-). from what I see, most EV buyers in CA are simply > > buying their way to a more convenient commute. > > > > Regards, > > Stephen > > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV < > ev@lists.evdl.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: George Tyler via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > > To: 'brucedp5' <bruce...@operamail.com>, 'Electric Vehicle Discussion > > > List' <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > > Sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:43:05 -0600 (MDT) > > > Subject: [EVDL] co-operation > > > > > > > In this forum we have all the skills necessary to set up a franchise > > > that is in it's self >not for profit but works to further the > > development > > > of a market for converted cars which >could be a fraction of the cost > > of > > > the current manufacturer's cars. This would really get >things going. > > > > > > Could you elaborate a little on this. I am a little confused (senior > > > moment..my natural state) as to what you are saying. 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