It was a rude awakening to me when I realized that all the Greatness of an EV to solve all our problems does not apply to congestion (unless one switches to an electric bike). So I have not been a supporter of HOV stickers for EV's.
HOV stickers for EV's with only 1 person in them does not make sense. AND it just adds to anti-EV sentiment... Doing more damage than long term gain... Bob On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:53 AM, George Tyler via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Well, if you had Elon Musk on your side maybe he, with his resources, could > get this changed, as well as other laws around EV's > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water > via EV > Sent: Friday, 26 September 2014 3:21 p.m. > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] co-operation > > I too have tried to get HOV stickers, but the agency providing the sticker > have made a very narrow interpretation of the California laws, where it > indicates that all qualified vehicles should get a sticker (clearly > meaning: > all zero emissions vehicles) the agency has changed their interpretation > and > enforcement to only give stickers to vehicles where the *manufacturer* of > the vehicle has certified that the vehicle qualifies (meets a set of rules > that they have defined). > I am doubting whether this was an attempt to kill interest in EVs in > general > by making it unattractive (difficult) to qualify for HOV stickers, but it > certainly causes all pre-existing and self-converted vehicles to become > disqualified from HOV stickers, which sounds arbitrary. > Anyway, the interpretation of the agency causes this and it seems that it > is > an incorrect interpretation of the law. Either a lot of pressure on this > agency or a lawsuit might be needed to change this interpretation - or > enough politicians that hear from their (EV driving) constituency and make > it explicit to the agency that they must issue stickers to *all* EVs. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Stephen via EV > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:06 PM > To: HARSHA GODAVARI; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] co-operation > > How about getting a conversion to be recognized with the same incentives > that are provided with most new EV sales? I converted my own car, at my own > full cost, with no tax breaks or other incentives, and now can not even get > a HOV sticker in California, even though the CA DMV and state BAR have both > verified it as a pure electric vehicle and is fully exempt from any future > smog certification. > > In the end, I did it for the savings in fuel costs, the silence, and it > leaves me open to do whatever performance increases I want without any > limitation (e.g. smog certification. It would be nice though to get to use > that car pool lane ;-). from what I see, most EV buyers in CA are simply > buying their way to a more convenient commute. > > Regards, > Stephen > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org > > > wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: George Tyler via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > To: 'brucedp5' <bruce...@operamail.com>, 'Electric Vehicle Discussion > > List' <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > Sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:43:05 -0600 (MDT) > > Subject: [EVDL] co-operation > > > > > In this forum we have all the skills necessary to set up a franchise > > that is in it's self >not for profit but works to further the > development > > of a market for converted cars which >could be a fraction of the cost > of > > the current manufacturer's cars. This would really get >things going. > > > > Could you elaborate a little on this. I am a little confused (senior > > moment..my natural state) as to what you are saying. 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