Thanks for the clarification...I obviously didn't edit properly.... b&
On Oct 2, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Ben, > Not entirely correct - there are many reasons that a car can receive a > "Salvage" title, not just from damage sustained and the insurance > deciding that repair cost is more expensive than declaring it a loss. > For example, if a car is stolen and recovered *after* the insurance has > already paid the original owner, they may avoid the hassle of dealing > with the old car - even if there is no scratch on that car and it is in > the same state as before the theft, so they give it s Salvage title and > deal it it that way. > Another cause is *any* vehicle that is sent to a junk yard, whether it > is > fully functional or damaged or not, will get a Salvage title. > I know this because my EV truck was sent by the City of Santa Rosa to > the Pick-n-Pull when it did not sell in their freet sale. > Consequently it received a Salvage title even though there was no > physical damage - just neglected batteries and dry-rot tires and such. > Someone bought it, put new batteries in, put good tires on, added a > better charger and started driving it, then sold it to me. > > If I am not mistaken, a "Salvage" title means that the vehicle is > rebuildable and can be re-titled without much problem (just a > brake and light inspection, a DMV check and if applicable, smog check, > in California) whereas there are other designations for vehicles that > cannot be > re-titled, so they only have value as a parts-car. > This is for example the case when a vehicle has many years of past-due > DMV fees and penalties, causing the cost to title (and pay the backlog) > to be higher than the value of the vehicle. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via > EV > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 12:38 PM > To: Collin Kidder; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to > repair&drive! (video) > > On Oct 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Collin Kidder via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > >> It is very common. People buy cars with a salvage title and fix them. > > Exactly -- the car basically becomes a kit and / or homemade car...very > much like the overwhelming majority of EVs owned by the people reading > these words, save that the sleds might or might not have had quite so > dramatic an history. > > It's also worth noting that a salvage title only happens when the car is > "totaled" by the insurance company: when the cost to repair is more than > the value the car is insured for. That can happen from cosmetic damage, > or from damage limited to an easily-repairable but expensive part, like > an engine. For example, try to drive the car across a flooded wash, suck > water into the intake, and the engine is dead...but the rest of the car > may well still be in perfect condition. Insurance might not be willing > to pay the price to replace the engine, and the owner might not care to, > either, so the car is totaled...but somebody else might even have a > perfectly-serviceable engine sitting on the shelf and be happy to drop > it into the car and drive away. > > And, think about it: wouldn't one of the ultimate DIY EV projects be to > resurrect one of the flagship commercial models? Ignoring this > remote-disable nonsense, who _wouldn't_ want a Tesla? Imagine some > pimply-faced teenager scouring the junkyard for the hotrod of her > dreams, towing it home, and bringing it back to life over the course of > the next year or so with money she saves from her job as a clerk at the > auto parts store. How is what this guy is trying to do any different? > > ...except, of course, that Tesla took the keys, still has them, and > won't give them up, and designed the car in such a way that you can't > reasonably replace the lock without their help that they won't give. > > b& > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 801 bytes > Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141002/d89e > 1e12/attachment.pgp> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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