I think that, by this point, we all agree on that point: the buyer did not receive what he thought he had received. I believe that the company that sold the salvage car likely did not realize the true situation either. I would think that the sell would fall into questionable legality given the circumstances.
The lingering question, and point of disagreement, is whether Tesla has any legal or moral authority or sanction to disable a vehicle that they no longer own. My view is that it is never acceptable for the originating company to disable a device without the sanction of the current owner. I seriously doubt that the owner at the time of the crash really wanted them to totally disable the car remotely. Disabling the car is the responsibility of the inertia sensors in the car. THAT is for safety.These things can be reset by the owner. Instead Tesla has electronically disabled the car in such a way that only they can unlock it. This is unconscionable as far as I'm concerned. This is not for safety. This is all so that Tesla can retain total control of something they have already sold. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Haritech (Gmail) via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > I agree. The seller didn't understand what he was buying. That's really > the end of the story. > > He didn't buy it from Tesla so it's not Teslas jobs to ensure the scrap > was re manufacturable into a car. It is Teslas role/right to ensure their > name and brand is protected. > > Lawrence > > > On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:42, Ben Goren <b...@trumpetpower.com> wrote: > > > >> On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Haritech (Gmail) via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > >> > >> Trouble is you didn't own the car when it was disabled. > > > > Then the sale was fraudulent, whether intentionally so or otherwise. The > buyer thought he was buying a salvageable car, not a pile of scrap metal. > > > > But, considering that it's Tesla, not the seller, who's responsible for > turning what was, in fact, a salvageable car into a pile of scrap...most of > us would consider that either theft or destruction of property. Morally, > whether or not legally. > > > > Imagine the car has, instead of a regular glovebox, a safe...and that > the entire wiring harness goes through this safe, and all the fuses are > inside the safe. For safety reasons, the safe is designed to lock itself > when an accelerometer detects a crash...but, though the manufacturer gave > you the key to the front of the safe when you bought the car, they > neglected to give you the key to the back of the safe that unlocks it after > a crash. They still have that key, but they won't give it to you, even > though you ostensibly own the car. > > > > Ethical companies do not pull these sorts of shenanigans. > > > > Tesla is well within its rights to publicly disclaim responsibility for > what this guy does with the car he's bought in known-damaged condition from > a third party. They don't have -- or, at least, _shouldn't_ have -- the > right to hinder him doing what he wants with the car, and that includes > maintaining control of parts of the car that they have no right keeping out > of the control of all their other owners. > > > > ...because, really: that's what this is all about. It's now apparent > that Tesla can turn <i>any</i> of their cars into scrap metal just by > pressing a button, and if you don't like the fact that that's what they've > done, your only recourse is to sue one of the richest men on the planet. > "Good luck with that," as they say. > > > > b& > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141002/a5324e00/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
