I like it. I wonder if Lit could get the C1 to simply jump over potential collisions. ;^) On Nov 4, 2014 12:24 PM, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> Ø consider the robot 'cheetah' at 30 mph when an obstacle darts into its > path. > > They did that. The robot cheetah jumped over the obstacles. The movie was > cute to watch as the human throwing objects and obstacles onto the > treadmill was working harder than the robot cheetah was in missing them. > > > > Though the icing on the cake was at the end of the treadmill video when the > cheetah blew a high pressure hydraulic line and spewed hydraulic fluid > everywhere and was jerked off the treadmill (to avoid becoming a pile of > junk at the wall)… > > > > There was another video of a free-ranging cheetah robot running at high > speed across a field without **any** attachments (though not at 30 MPH). > The treadmill cheetah had protective tethers and an external power > source. The free-range cheetah was completely automonous with a motorcycle > engine powering the hydraulics) Probably going 15 MPH or so. > > > > Bob > > > > > > *From:* Chris Tromley [mailto:ctrom...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:30 AM > *To:* Electric Vehicle Discussion List; Robert Bruninga > *Subject:* Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video) > > > > Recovering from an impact is a well-bounded problem. To appreciate what > the C1 will have to deal with in the real world, consider the robot > 'cheetah' at 30 mph when an obstacle darts into its path. > > Slow rapidly, bank hard left while still slowing, then while still rolling > left, reverse to bank hard right. While still rolling right, reverse to > hard left again but pull out as you approach upright to continue forward. > > Even with a human pilot to provide the inputs, overlapping compensations > will drive these control systems nuts. > > It's a very real world out there, and Lit is so not ready for it. > > Chris > > On Nov 4, 2014 11:08 AM, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > Related to the image in the SUBJECT video (pulling the self-baqlancing > vehicle sideways and it still remaining balanced)., yesterday I saw videos > of the DARPA research on robots and it is AMAZING where they are at. > > They showed full 2 legged huminoid robots (with arms for balance) running > across a field of rocks, bricks and debris! > They showed 4 legged robots running at up to 30 MPH (Cheeta) > They showed the 2 legged robot standing on one foot and being hit from the > side with a wrecking ball mass at the legs and hips, and in all cases, > MAINTAING its balance. It looked just like a human would, The reaction > of the other leg and the torso and the 2 arms would conteract the > de-stabilizing force and the robot would retain its balance on one foot! > > And they said, it actually does it better than a human (in the same test) > because the robot has no "fear". Whereas the human would not stand for > the whack from the side... > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tromley via > EV > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:44 AM > To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video) > > Regarding previous motorcycle riding experience, that might actually be a > hindrance. > > I had some detailed correspondence with the Lit spokesman some time back. > I learned that the steer by wire approach was necessary due to the > approach they would take regarding initiating a turn. It's an approach > that conflicts with what any motorcyclist would do. > > So if you're a motorcyclist, check your reflexes at the door. > > Chris > On Nov 4, 2014 6:12 AM, "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > > > > [ref > > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Lit-C1-do > > es-the-slalom-and-now-has-a-tailgate-tp4672331.html > > Lit C1 does the slalom and now has a tailgate ] > > > > In the above post, it gives: > > [video > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxTRox3Vt9E > > The Future of Transportation > > Danny Kim Nov 3, 2014 > > Say hello to our new prototype EP4. Born Sept 1, 2014. > > Think of it as the Lit Motors' version of the Wright brother's Flyer. > > www.LitMotors.com > > ] > > > > which shows Lit's latest electric-motorcycle prototype (note the > > side-mounted wheels during its R&D period) being driven by a driver > > that has never driven a motorcycle before (I'll assume she does not > > have a CA motorcycle license either ... btw ?Is that an SF Presidio > > parking lot in the background?). > > > > It also shows first an ice-motorcycle being knocked over using an > > ice-van tugging at it with a long tie down strap (ouch! Hope the ice > > e-cycle did not get too many dings). > > > > Then it showed that same knock-over attempt but with the Lit > > e-motorcycle prototype. The e-cycle did not knock-over. The van tugged > > at it, but only dragged the e-cycle sideways while it self-corrected > staying upright. > > > > > > ?Does this bring a whole new way of looking at 2wheel driving the CA > > DMV is going to have to adjust for? > > > > Not unlike autonomous self-driving plugins (yes, they are going to be > > sold sooner than you likely want to be), a self-balancing e-cycle > > could open doors/opportunities to many 2wheel wannabe drivers that > > previously could or would not learn to balance/drive on two wheels. > > > > As more and more technology comes into our lives, lets learn about it, > > how it can help us, and at the same time keep ourselves on a > > short-leash to keep from becoming one-with-the-Borg (everyone should > > still know how to walk and chewy-gum at the same time on their own). > > > > > > > > > > For EVLN posts use: > > > > http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble+template%2FNamlServlet.j > > tp%3Fmacro%3Dsearch_page%26node%3D413529%26query%3Devln+-re%26sort%3Dd > > ate > > > > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > ... > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=SF+Presidio&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&; > > ei=oq5YVPqsDIunyQTtxIGoAg > > SF Presidio > > http://www.presidio.gov/map/PrintMaps/Main%20Post%20Parking%20Map.pdf > > http://www.presidioparkway.org/gallery/ > > ... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_%28Star_Trek%29#Assimilation > > Borg > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Lit-EP4-s > > elf-balancing-e-motorcycle-video-tp4672337.html > > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > > Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141104/619b60 > 04/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141104/2eac7377/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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