On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:03 AM, Russ Sciville via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Who would wish to drive around with a hydrogen tank in the back pressurised 
> to 10,000 psi?

There's lots of insanity associated with FCVs, but fuel safety isn't part of 
it. Hydrogen is much safer than gasoline in that regards. Not that gasoline is 
especially safe, of course, but it's a well-accepted and well-managed risk, and 
hydrogen is a lesser risk than that.

Gasoline vapors are heavier than air and tend to pool. Liquid gasoline wicks 
very easily into fabric. Gasoline fires stay close to the ground and in your 
clothes.

Hydrogen is the most buoyant gas there is. An hydrogen leak is going straight 
up and isn't going to collect anywhere in enough volume to sustain combustion. 
If you started an hydrogen fire, the flames are going to shoot right up rather 
than spread laterally. And, unlike gasoline fires which are excellent at 
sustaining themselves, the slightest interruption of an hydrogen flame is going 
to extinguish it. Indeed, even creating a sustaining flame in the first place 
is going to be a bit of a challenge -- think of how careful you have to be to 
light a propane torch; hydrogen will be even more challenging.

Pressurized tanks can be scary, yes, but, in practice, it takes either 
malicious intent or something spectacularly catastrophic to set off one built 
to automotive specs.

Where hydrogen falls flat is first in terms of pollution. Hydrogen is 
commercially sourced from mined hydrocarbons and thus is as much of a CO2 
pollutant as the coal, oil, or gas it's produced from. Because it's the 
lightest and most highly possibly refined form of those hydrocarbons, it next 
loses out on efficiency (for the same reason gasoline loses to diesel) -- 
especially compared with electric vehicles. It loses out in a really big way in 
terms of the distribution network which doesn't exist for hydrogen but does for 
everything else -- and which would be much more challenging and expensive and 
less efficient to build than anything else we've already built. And it loses 
out to gasoline and diesel in terms of practicality because...well, while 
hydrogen has far and away the greatest energy density per unit of _mass,_ it's 
also got the _least_ energy density per unit of _volume._ A fifteen gallon tank 
of hydrogen gas, under any form of compression you'd want to be anywhere n
 ear, contains _far_ fewer hydrogen atoms than a fifteen gallon tank of 
gasoline.

Hydrogen is a great fuel...for rocket ships in space. Here on Earth? Forget it.

Cheers,

b&
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