"That's got basically nothing to do with locking people out of their own
vehicles, and everything to do with basic engineering -- materials science
especially, as well as new manufacturing techniques to permit the use of
stronger, lighter, and more efficient materials and designs."

Yes, that is correct I was saying something new -  that there is a good
side and a bad side to everything.  I might have to build kit cars or some
other pursuit.  If my main transportation lasted 400K and required no
effort on my part, I would like that.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Ben Goren <b...@trumpetpower.com> wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Michael Ross via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> wrote:
>
> > being the devil's advocate...
> >
> > This is clearly not great for the poor or the DIY'r, but the new car
> buyer
> > may have much better cars to choose from, I expect instead of 200K miles
> > being common, 100K was a great thing when I was young, I am sure with EVs
> > there will be an expectation of 300K and 400K life.
>
> That's got basically nothing to do with locking people out of their own
> vehicles, and everything to do with basic engineering -- materials science
> especially, as well as new manufacturing techniques to permit the use of
> stronger, lighter, and more efficient materials and designs.
>
> My 1964 1/2 Mustang that's going to become a plugin hybrid? It's going to
> make more power, get better mileage, and have a better chance of lasting
> longer than basically anything you could buy from the dealer in the '60s.
> The block itself may well wind up having been manufactured in the
> '60s...but the rotating assembly is going to be either forged or nodular
> iron, it's going to have fuel injection, and so on, giving the drivetrain
> basically all the advantages of both '60s and modern technology and none of
> the disadvantages of either.
>
> The auto manufacturers are just following in the footsteps of the inkjet
> printer manufacturers: sell the printers for the price of a full set of ink
> cartridges...and sell the cartridges at some sort of insane
> thousand-to-one-or-so markup. And put a $0.0001 chip in the cartridges that
> ensures that you can't refill them and can only use the manufacturer's
> cartridges in the printer.
>
> My advice to car buyers?
>
> Don't buy anything model year 1966 or newer. If you have a newer car that
> left the factory withOUT computer controls, don't sell it.
>
> Either that, or just get it out of your head right now any notion that you
> actually own the car....
>
> b&
>



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