Yes, it'll be plugged in...and that's the heart of the question. If the batteries are inside the vehicle and the A/C cools the vehicle interior including the batteries at the expense of heating the rest of the garage, I'd think that'd be a net gain...but I obviously don't know, which is why the question.
There's a window A/C unit mounted in the wall of the garage. Insulation is less than ideal but much more than when the house was manufactured, and about as good as it's going to get. Ventilation can easily be achieved by opening doors. And they don't need more than a 50-mile range, which is why the i-MiEV was on the short list as well. In practice, they basically never put more than 40 miles on a car in a given day. If some sort of emergency should arise that they needed to, they'll still have the 1955 VW Bug. For less urgent extended in-town trips -- like a garden tour 40 miles away on the other side of town -- I'll have both my 1968 VW Westfalia Campmobile and, very soon now, 1964 1/2 Mustang, as I'd likely already have been the one playing chauffeur in their now-dying 1989 Lincoln Town Car. Vacation road trips they don't do often and rent a car when they do -- as they just did a couple weeks ago in California. So, if Mitsubishi warranties the car for 70% by 2018, it should still have 50 miles by the mid 2020s...by which time, if they're still driving far enough to need more range than that, the replacement cost of a battery should only be a couple grand at most -- the cost of a couple dozen tanks of gasoline. b& On May 31, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Paul Dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Possibly, it may use more than the charger supplies but I see you point. > Still don't believe the effect will be a cooler battery. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 31, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Peri Hartman <pe...@kotatko.com> wrote: >> >> Paul, I'm pretty sure that while in the garage the EV would be plugged=20 >> in, thus drawing line current, not battery. >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Paul Dove via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> Sent: 31-May-15 12:24:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Success! >> >>> Not to mention the fact that using a Battery heat it. Charging also=20 >>> causes it to heat so using the battery while charging would beat the=20 >>> battery even more. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 31, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>= >> =20 >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> My first comment: did they have a great EV grin ! >>>> >>>> On the A/C. I think running the A/C while in the garage would make=20 >>>> things worse. Don't forget that the waste heat from the A/C dumps=20 >>>> right back into the garage, so only the interior of the car would be=20 >>>> cooler. Whether that means a net cooling or heating of the battery I=20 >>>> don't know, but I can't imagine it being helpful overall. >>>> >>>> Does the Leaf model they bought have battery thermal control? If so,= >> =20 >>>> keeping that running would help, right, even though you would dump a=20 >>>> bit more heat into the garage. >>>> >>>> Third, even a window-mount A/C unit could have an effect on keeping=20 >>>> the garage cooler. >>>> >>>> Other things that could help the garage temperature. Insulate the=20 >>>> space. Install fan ventilation - at least that will prevent it from=20 >>>> getting hotter inside than out. Put a highly reflective coating on=20 >>>> the roof to reflect more sunlight. Sigh, all of these things cost=20 >>>> money... >>>> >>>> Peri >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Ben Goren via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>>> Sent: 31-May-15 12:03:27 PM >>>> Subject: [EVDL] Success! >>>> >>>>> So, Dad just drove Mom home in a 2013 Leaf. ~12k miles, California=20 >>>>> vehicle; couldn't tell it from new. There was one bar missing from=20 >>>>> the charge gauge; the numeric meter read, "98%." >>>>> >>>>> Everybody's excited. It should be well and truly perfect for them. >>>>> >>>>> One thought I had that I'm hoping somebody might be able to shed=20 >>>>> some insight into...they'll be keeping the car in the garage, but the= >> =20 >>>>> garage isn't climate controlled. It probably won't quite get to=20 >>>>> today's forecasted high of 108=C2=B0F inside the garage, but it'll=20 >>>>> definitely get rather toasty. >>>>> >>>>> What are the chances that the car will let you run the air=20 >>>>> conditioning while it's plugged in with nobody inside? Would that=20 >>>>> actually do anything to make the batteries happier? >>>>> >>>>> b& >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: signature.asc >>>>> Type: application/pgp-signature >>>>> Size: 801 bytes >>>>> Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail >>>>> URL:=20 >>>>> <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150531/255b= >> e410/attachment.pgp> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>>> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA=20 >>>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA=20 >>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA=20 >>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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