On 03/25/2016 09:07 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Willie,

That's a very impressive summary, you wrote. I suspect, from what I've read here and elsewhere, when EVs are used in a commercial environment the financial picture is completely different. Repairs and maintenance always drop to the bottom line where they might be ignored in personal finances. And we would like to think that EVs have less of those expenses than ICEs. Without prying for too much information, can you tell us whether your EV investments came out reasonably good compared to ICE equivalents when you factor in purchase price?
I used to drive 81-86 Isuzu diesel pickups. If I bought used and put a lot of miles on them, they cost me as little as $.10/mile for all costs including initial cost. I tend to drive them until they have no residual; I still have about six. For a lightly driven Isuzu, it was no more than $.20. Less than $.05 for fuel at that time. My second favorite vehicle was a diesel Sprinter. Over 50k miles. It cost well under $.50/mile, about $.15 for fuel. The Hyundai, at 50k miles, cost me well over $1, maybe $1.50. The Leaf, 20k miles, was probably just under $1; it had $15k residual. The Tesla, 70k miles, is approaching $1; I hope to get down close to $.50. My first imiev has less than 10k miles so it is still close to $2. The first imiev had a net cost of about $16k; the second will be less than $9k. Both new. If I can put enough miles on them, I expect to get well under $.50/mile.

I know you said your conversions did not. But you bought two iMiev and a Leaf. Perhaps those did. And then a Tesla - probalby not, at least not yet?

By the way, if you still have the Leaf, are you aware there was a class action settlement where, I believe, Nissan must now replace bad batteries of earlier years (even 2011) with a new 2016 model if the bad one loses more than 3 bars.
I sold the Leaf to a neighbor and keep track of it. He recently tried to get them to replace the battery but they declared it "good". His range is down to about 45 miles. The Leaf instrumentation is intentionally and maliciously obfuscated. "Bars" of all things! Non-linear bars. Nissan recently offered me $50 under the class action deal. $5k would have been more reasonable.


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