That depends on your definition of better.
I chose the i-MiEV because of the battery it uses and the cheap price.
It uses the Yuasa LEV 50 50Ah 3.7 Volt (nominal)
The cells were fabricated using LiFePO4/graphite chemistry. The cells
are able to supply the stable output-power over wide range of 10 to 90%
SOC. The cells can be charged over 90% SOC within 30 minutes at 25 C.
The cells have superior safety on the crush and overcharge tests.
I love it!
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From: Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: brucedp5 <bruce...@operamail.com>; ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Had the i3 design vision been better it could
have competed with the Tesla-3 EV
Regarding the imiev, if I were buying today I very well might buy it (I
would have to ride in one and review the features again). At the time
I
bought my leaf, the price difference wasn't so much and I got a much
higher functioning car with the leaf for about $3K more.
The real problem with the imiev, in my opinion, is that it has nothing
that it does better than any of the other commercially available EVs
except for having a lower price. People buying EVs today generally
aren't doing so strictly because of price. If that were so, it would
be hard for anyone to justify buying an EV.
So, why doesn't mitsubishi do at least one thing better? For $2K to
$3K
they could add 50-75 miles to the range, pushing it way past the leaf,
the i3, the spark, and any of the other sedans.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: 10-Jun-16 12:49:33 AM
Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Had the i3 design vision been better it could
have
competed with the Tesla-3 EV
>
>
>'BMW Can't Do Electric AND Autonomous, i Range Will Focus on the
>Latter'
>
>% Anti-sales i3 styling, cramped interior, no 200mi range upgrade
path,
>(+more) %
>
>http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/6/5/Straight-To-The-Crusher-BMW-Could-Have-Killed-The-Tesla-Model-3-If-It-Made-The-i3-Any-Good-7733863/
>Straight To The Crusher: BMW Could Have Killed The Tesla Model 3 If It
>Made
>The i3 Any Good
>2016/06/05 Gabe Beita Kiser
>
>[images
>http://db.carbuzz.com/images2/570000/5000/0/575063.jpg
>
>http://db.carbuzz.com/images2/570000/5000/0/575065.jpg
>
>http://db.carbuzz.com/images2/570000/5000/0/575066.jpg
>]
>
>"If you set the bar too low, at least you won't have to be let down,"
>should
>not be a motto that BMW adopts. Right now, electric cars are going
>through a
>rough time. In the late 2000s, gas prices indicated that we’d all be
>driving
>cars fueled by electricity plants by now, but that isn’t the case.
>Instead,
>EV sales are below levels that experts predicted they would be at, but
>what’s to blame for this? One of the most commonly cited explanations
>is
>that gas is cheaper than it used to be, so fuel economy ratings are
>again
>something that only those who watched Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient
Truth”
>care
>about.
>
>However, this doesn’t explain why buyers are turning up their noses at
>cars
>that require minimal maintenance, minuscule running costs, and the
>gratification that their purchase just bought a polar bear some extra
>time.
>A reason that’s easier to chew on is the fact that most available
>electric
>cars have not advanced as quickly as consumers wanted them to. One
>major
>issue is range. It’s true that the lion’s share of drivers put less
>than 100
>miles on their cars per day, but when faced with the decision, most
>people
>would chose the option that allows them the greatest amount of freedom
>however sparingly it will be used. Then there’s the question of cost.
>Many
>electric cars simply cost a whole lot more than their gas-powered
>counterparts.
>
>The cheapest new electric car you can buy in the US is the Mitsubishi
>i-MiEV, which retails for about $22,000. However, the car’s no frills
>package and disconcertingly small size means that similarly priced
cars
>like
>the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic easily better the iMiEV by all
>measures.
>Range and price competition aren't the only two facets of EV existence
>that
>make most battery-powered cars a step down taken only by noble climate
>change crusaders. There is also a condition that plagues EVs that
we'll
>call
>futurism syndrome. No one really knows why, but most automakers with
EV
>options feel the need to make them look like Furbys from the future.
>The
>less creature comforts the car has, the more likely it is to don a
>“please
>love me” face.
>
>Then, as the price and the number of niceties outfitted to the E car
>rises,
>designers change the styling to that of a cocky alien. These demerits
>are
>exactly why the BMW i3 is a car that should wander into a crusher.
>Conceptually, the i3 was the little EV that could. It had all the
>potential
>in the world and BMW squandered it. BMW could have designed a car that
>would
>put a massive dent in the number of Tesla Model 3 preorders, but
>instead it
>chose to make a science experiment. While Tesla is still grasping to
>find
>just how the hell it will build half a million Model 3s, the i3 stays
>in
>dealership lots with few interested buyers. In 2015, BMW sold 24,057
>i3s
>worldwide. By comparison, BMW sold 140,609 3 Series units in the US
>alone.
>
>Of course it's a bit unfair to compare a brand new model to an
>established
>and hugely popular marquee, but BMW should have higher ambitions than
>making
>the i3 just another alternative to the rest of the electric car
lineup.
>If
>the Bavarian motor company wants people to take electric cars
>seriously, it
>needs to make them compete with regular cars in the same way that
Tesla
>is
>doing. BMW could have stuck with a traditional design, much like that
>of the
>practical and popular 3 Series sedan. A line of EVs with conservative
>styling could have helped many consumers cross the bridge from
>gas-powered
>cars to the electric car family. If the i3 had styling that everyone
>could
>love, it would speak to BMW's current customers who chose gasoline
>options.
>
>When BMW sticks to its design DNA, it does well. The same can be said
>for
>the the brand's well-known tech talent. The i8 stands as an impressive
>testament to what can be done with hybrid drivetrains. Standing just
>one
>model down the line, the i3 fails to do a thing to advance electric
car
>technology. Before confusion ensues, this isn't a plea to get BMW to
>make a
>Tesla. Rather, this is a call to put the innovation and forward
>thinking of
>a tech company under the skin of the i3 while the shell and crucial
>components are made by an auto giant that knows what it's doing.
>Instead,
>the i3 takes that blend and puts it on inside out, keeping the looks
of
>a
>car from the future and performing like one from the past. For that,
>the i3
>can go straight to the crusher.
>[© 2016 CarBuzz]
>...
>http://hero108.wikia.com/wiki/Cocky_Aliens
>Cocky Aliens are aliens who can be very annoying ... can only be
>defeated by
>being kicked 100 times in a row ...
>
>
>
>http://cinemablaze.com/2016/06/05/bmw-revamps-i-electric-vehicle-division-to-focus-on-self.html
>BMW revamps 'i' electric vehicle division to focus on self-driving
tech
>2016/06/05 ... BMW is investing heavily in the development of
>autonomous
>technology with the launch of a new programme called Project i Next
...
>...
>http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-can-t-do-electric-and-autonomous-will-focus-the-i-range-on-the-latter-108156.html
>BMW Can't Do Electric AND Autonomous, Will Focus the i Range on the
>Latter
>3RD JUNE 2016 … BMW has just put another nail in its coffin ... i3 ...
>face
>even a mother would have trouble loving ...
>
>
>
>
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