Of course we don't really know if there was negotiation or not. It says they "rejected the group buy offer" but that could mean they rejected the group buy OR they rejected the offer. Maybe they counter-offered and it was too rich for the group. Just like we don't really know if the groups hope of $20k was just a hope or whether they had actually gotten that number from someone at Nisaan.
--Rick > On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Mike Nickerson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > I was surprised that Nissan's answer was "No" instead of a counter offer. > Entering into a negotiation would have been appropriate. > > Mike > > >> On August 29, 2016 7:50:47 PM MDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV >> <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> Amazing that they would embark on such an effort without first talking >> to Nissan. >> >> >> Sent from AltaMail >> >> >> From: Rick Beebe via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle >> Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Nissan.ca sez >> 'No' To Leaf-Group-Buy> ticking-off 3700+ EV buyers = a lose-lose Date: >> 8/29/16, 6:27 PM >> >> >> One has to wonder if the people setting up the group buy pulled that >> target price out of their ass. I can sympathize with Nissan if that >> price is below wholesale or worse. Are you really losing "sales" if you >> >> would have to actually pay the people to take the cars? I would tout >> how >> much money I saved the company by not giving away the cars at a loss. >> And I doubt Tesla will want to tender a group buy for $20k per car when >> >> they've got 400,000 to sell at full list price first. >> >> --Rick >> >>> On 8/29/2016 6:12 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >>> In the first week of August, a group of EV lovers in Montreal, Canada >> set up >>> a group-buy effort for the Nissan LEAF. About 2,500 people initially >> signed >>> up for the group-buy deal and the number of interested buyers had >> climbed up >>> to 3,700 by the time their proposal reached the Nissan’s corporate HQ >> in >>> Canada. The main idea of the group buy was to use the strength of >> numbers >>> (almost 4000 orders) as a leverage to get massive discount on the >> sticker >>> price of the car. >>> >>> The Nissan LEAF has a sticker price of $31,998 (CAD) for the S Trim. >> The >>> members in the group-buy deal were hoping that they could get Nissan >> to sell >>> the car at a $20,000 CAD each. However, in an “understandable” turn >> of >>> events, Nissan Canada’s president has rejected the group buy offer >> and >>> effectively shut down the plan. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160829/e6b10572/attachment.htm> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)