Do you have any evidence of these batteries failing because of out of balance 
conditions or is that speculation 

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> On May 9, 2018, at 9:22 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
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>> On 9 May 2018 at 21:21, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
>> 
>> wait a couple weeks as totally protected drop in replacements changing
>> a 35 ah form factor into a 50 ah battery with many more cycles made
>> from lithium was coming. 
> 
> I've seen a lot of these around already.  I almost bought a small one about 
> a year ago, but then went in another direction.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/12-Volt-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery/dp/B00JK06CK8/
> 
> They're 12v (sometimes 6v) worth of lithum cells, often LiFePO4, with some 
> kind of BMS internally so you can (supposedly) charge them with a lead 
> battery charger.  Actually, in many cases all you need is a bare power 
> supply.
> 
> You have to watch out for them though.  There are a lot of cheap Chinese 
> batteries like this that have just "protection" circuits, not true BMSes.  
> The cells soon get out of balance, and the usable capacity falls.
> 
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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