Hello Bruce, Hope your operation goes well. My prayers are with you.
From your information and from Tom Keenan: Toyota is into the EV business but the dealers as Tom Keenan points out may not be enthusiastic about selling EVs: "If this is based on dealership interviews/meetings, then then perhaps the dealership answer was really (...since we make less money on servicing electrics) we don’t want to sell them. Thus, we pretend there is no demand. " These are a couple of links based on Bruce's email and an internet search: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-toyota-china-gac-exclusive/exclusive-toyota-plans-to-roll-into-chinas-ev-market-in-gac-motor-vehicle-idUSKCN1IJ07K Exclusive: Toyota plans to roll into China's EV market in GAC Motor vehicle May 17, 2018 - BEIJING (Reuters) - Toyota plans to start selling the GAC Toyota ix4 by the end of the year. The car is a battery-powered compact SUV based on GAC’s Trumpchi GS4, and has been in development for two years ... *** So Toyota is getting into the EV business but in China in a Joint Venture way: https://wattev2buy.com/electric-vehicles/guangzhou-automobile-group-electric-vehicles/gac-gs4-ev/ Two other GAC JV models are based on the GAC Trumpchi GS4 platform, the *GAC Mitsubishi Qizhi PHEV <https://wattev2buy.com/electric-vehicles/gac-mitsubishi-ev-models-gac-mitsubishi-electric-car-strategy/>*, and the *Toyota GAC iX4 BEV <https://wattev2buy.com/electric-vehicles/guangzhou-toyota-ev-models-gac-toyota-electric-car-strategy/gac-toyota-ix4-ev-suv-specs-range-battery-price-release-date/>* . https://wattev2buy.com/electric-vehicles/guangzhou-toyota-ev-models-gac-toyota-electric-car-strategy/gac-toyota-ix4-ev-suv-specs-range-battery-price-release-date/ On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 4:25 AM brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > https://evbite.com/there-might-not-be-toyota-all-electric-car-and-heres-why/ > There Might Not Be Another Toyota All-Electric Car, and Here’s Why > December 8, 2018 David Mowatt > > [images > https://i2.wp.com/evbite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/RAV4-EV.jpg > ] > > While the Japanese automaker has made considerable strides in the electric > plug-in and hybrid market thanks to their various Prius model variants, it > has been quite some time since we’ve seen a purely electric vehicle from > Toyota. According to Jack Hollis, the general manager of Toyota Motor North > America, it is unlikely we’ll be see a Toyota all-electric car anytime > soon. > > With other well-known automakers pushing desperately towards > electrification, it always appeared rather odd that Toyota never seemed to > step outside of the plug-in and hybrid world in order to construct a > fully-electric car to compete with the ever changing marketplace. > > According to Jack Hollis, Toyota dealers don’t believe they can sell enough > fully-electric vehicles to warrant a business case, plain and simple. > > During a roundtable interview at the recent Los Angeles Auto Show, Hollis > shared: > > “If our dealers, and we just met with our national dealer council two > weeks ago, if our dealers felt like there was a significant demand (for > EVs) > we would have already had fully electric and electric vehicles already on > the road today. > > “Having that technology, which you’ll remember if you go back the > electric RAV4 was one of the first electric offerings in the marketplace in > the US, period. So the technology there and what we can offer is available, > but like any good demand and supply economy, if the demand is low, do you > really want to supply?” > > Longtime fans of the Japanese automaker may remember the RAV4 EV, the first > Toyota all-electric car. Initially introduced in 1997, the fully-electric > crossover was discontinued in 2003 before Toyota later reintroduced a > second > model in 2012. The second generation RAV4 EV, unfortunately, was > discontinued after just a few years on the market. In spite of the RAV4 > EV’s > relatively short lifespan, its very existence shows that Toyota do know how > to make fully-electric vehicles—they just don’t believe they can make money > doing so at the moment. > > Hollis added: > > “But I will say at the exact same time, there is daily investment ... > of > our electrification strategy, so I do not believe that our dealers, and > they > would agree, that we should not go down just with an electric offering but > we should with an electrification offering where we have a wider range of > products, a wide range of energy sources and uses available. And that’s > really what were pursuing, a wider range. And then as we go over time well > be able to see where the marketplace moves. But at this point, there is no > reason to race that to market.” > > Toyota clearly plans to take their time as they ease into the electric > vehicle marketplace, which we can’t fault them for. Unlike automakers like > Volkswagen who claim to be able to pump out over 50 million electric > vehicles, it’s interesting to see Toyota opt for a slower, more relaxed > pace > in regards to their electrification goals. Only time will tell when we’ll > see another Toyota all-electric car, but we hope it will be well worth the > wait. > [© evbite.com] > > > > https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/12/toyota-if-our-dealers-thought-they-could-sell-evs-we-d-already-have-one.html > Toyota: We Don't Have a Business Case to Make EVs » AutoGuide ... > Dec 06, 2018 - Toyota sells a ton of electrified vehicles between its > various Prius model ... “If our dealers, and we just met with our national > dealer council two ... was a significant demand (for EVs) we would have > already had fully ... And make no mistake about it, Toyota will offer an EV > one day – it's just ... > > https://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Toyota-RAV-4-EV.jpg > > > [dated] > Toyota expanding NEV manufacturing in China - electrive.com > > https://www.electrive.com/2018/08/17/toyota-expanding-ev-manufacturing-in-china/ > Aug 17, 2018 - Specifically, Toyota plans to increase production capacities > for electric vehicles in their factories in Tianjin and Guangzhou. The > first > location ... > > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-toyota-china-gac-exclusive/exclusive-toyota-plans-to-roll-into-chinas-ev-market-in-gac-motor-vehicle-idUSKCN1IJ07K > Exclusive: Toyota plans to roll into China's EV market in GAC Motor vehicle > May 17, 2018 - BEIJING (Reuters) - Toyota plans to start selling the GAC > Toyota ix4 by the end of the year. The car is a battery-powered compact SUV > based on GAC’s Trumpchi GS4, and has been in development for two years ... > > > + > > https://uk.news.yahoo.com/first-drive-kia-e-niro-080000072.html?guccounter=1 > First Drive: Kia’s e-Niro recharges the South Korean brand’s electric car > offerings > 4 December 2018 Think of electric car ownership and you might first of all > consider the clever technology that powers EVs before turning your mind to > the 'range anxiety' we've all ... > > media.zenfs.com/en-GB/homerun/snappa_motoring_693/c9b004d2485774646eafcaf70fc3a4dc > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/archive/ > https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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