But what about **your** sources??? You were asked for your references. Your spiel is well and good if the economic efficiencies are there. Who has made breakthroughs and where can they read the same things you are reading?
I made a list of the hydrogen economy weaknesses years ago and would have no problems switching economically if the issues have been solved. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 1:12 AM Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > We’ve made incredible progress over just the last few years in greening > the grid. > > By 2045, it should be 100% renewable. By 2030, transportation hydrogen > should be 100% renewable. > > (BTW, if you think that nothing else has changed in hydrogen technology in > the last several years, there is something wrong with your sources) > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > On Dec 26, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Darryl McMahon via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > We don't have to guess at the California electricity mix. > > > > > https://www.energy.ca.gov/almanac/electricity_data/total_system_power.html > > > > (rounding to nearest percent for simplicity) > > > > 29% from renewables other than large hydro > > > > 15% from large hydro > > > > 9% from nuclear (not renewable, but reasonably low emissions impact from > an existing plant - final disposition of spent fuel still to be solved) > > > > 4% from coal > > > > 34% from natural gas (fossil) > > > > 9% unidentified > > > > That's what shows up on the grid. It does not include those producing > off-grid, or generating for in-house use (e.g. household PV used behind the > meter). > > > > Greener grid means greener EV use. > > > > As for using hydrogen as a transportation fuel for light vehicles in > typical missions (commuting, errand running, occasional longer trips), I > looked into this early in this century, and kept some track since. Things > have not changed much on the technology side in the intervening period for > hydrogen vehicles, other than using bigger storage at higher pressure. > > > > Darryl McMahon > > Author, award-winning book: The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (2006) > > (on digest mode, so don't expect quick responses) > > > >> On 12/26/2018 4:09 PM, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org wrote: > >> Message: 6 > >> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:53:47 +0000 (UTC) > >> From: Lawrence Rhodes<primobass...@sbcglobal.net> > >> To:ev@lists.evdl.org > >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner? > >> Message-ID:<1956029850.2785592.1545857627...@mail.yahoo.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> California uses mostly hydro at night.? There are natural gas plants > for high demand.? I think that is how it works or should work.? Lawrence > Rhodes > > > > -- > > Darryl McMahon > > Freelance Project Manager (sustainable systems) > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181227/b87fcbb5/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
