Seems like people don’t  usually take Into account the cumulative value of 
green energy uses in these discussions, e.g. the long term, cascading benefits 
of using renewables. For example, Petroleum products burned 50 years ago still 
degrade our atmosphere, causing continually accelerating costs for crop 
production, public health, HVAC electricity consumption and disaster recovery.

We just drove down through the length of California’s Central Valley - a major 
agricultural region on the west coast (50 x 450 miles of crop lands). At the 
bottom of the valley , for 60 or 70 miles down through Bakersfield, we couldn’t 
see the mountains forming the valley until we started driving up Tejon pass, 
into the LA Basin. Visibility was less than one mile, all because of petroleum 
pollution.  5 miles up the pass, at the summit, visibility was basically 
unlimited. CAVU as they say.

So, if one takes account of future impacts, something like  a net present value 
approach, the EV energy benefits would be substantially higher than simply 
calculating daily replacements of fossil fuel electricity generation with 
charging stations.

Glenn B.

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> On Dec 3, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Peter VanDerWal via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm actually in the process of doing exactly that.  My solar panels are 
> scheduled to arrive today.  
> Starting with 2.5kwh for the charging station, but my wife only drives about 
> 30-35 miles a day.  I'll have enough identical panels to increase to ~3.5kwh 
> if I need to.
> She volunteers to work at a local USO and doesn't leave until 1pm, which 
> gives me all morning to charge directly from solar.
> 
> 
> December 1, 2020 12:11 PM, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
>> My preferred comparison for the impact of EV's is simply that it takes
>> about 12 solar panels (3 kW) per EV in the USA to provide the average 40
>> mile daily usage.
>> IE, enough solar panels to cover one parking space provides electric
>> transportation "for life".
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