Really want all that going to auto transportation use? Aren’t there better uses?
- Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > If that's really true, that's an incredible statement on how much energy > we're wasting. It says, effectively, that we could power 100% of our auto > usage with the energy only used to *produce* gasoline. Not sure how much more > would be needed for public transportation, short and long haul freight, but > it would make a good dent in that, too. > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Peter VanDerWal via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: e...@vanderwal.us > Sent: 03-Dec-20 8:53:23 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] EVs not greener than fossil-fuel vehicles? > >> Last year in the USA, refineries purchased 41,140 MILLION kwhs of >> electricity from the grid. >> Thats enough to power approx 9.6 million electric vehicles for 15,000 miles >> each. >> >> In addition they purchased 940 billion cubic feet of Natural Gas. Thats >> enough to power an additional 220 million EVs for 15,000 miles each (if used >> in NG Power plants) >> >> https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_capfuel_dcu_nus_a.htm >> >> THey also purchase steam which could be used to run turbines and power >> additional EVs. >> >> This doesn't even consider the electricity/energy used to extract the >> petroleum from the ground, move the petroleum around or power the gas >> stations. Plus I've seen adds from fossil fuel companies that state that we >> use MORE energy searching for new fossil fuel reserves than the get from >> those new reserves. >> >> December 1, 2020 4:37 AM, "paul dove via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >>> Nearly one-half the energy consumed by refineries is obtained from >>> by-product refinery gas and >>> coke, and about one-third is supplied by natural gas. They don’t buy >>> electricity the generate their >>> own. >>> >>> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>> >>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020, 4:30 AM, Bill Woodcock via EV >>>> <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >>> >>> Last time I ran the numbers, every fuel vehicle in the world is being >>> subsidized by more than USD >>> 5000/year in governmental subsidies to the gasoline and diesel industries. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
