>>I heard rumors that the original Chevy Volt BMS can still be used with the >>Volt packs.
You might be thinking of the SIMP BMS Not sure of the current state of things, but there's a good collection of that info here: https://github.com/Tom-evnut/AmperaBattery https://github.com/Tom-evnut/SimpBMS ________________________________ From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of Neal, Gary via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 05:44 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Neal, Gary <gln...@psu.edu> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Volt module details. I heard rumors that the original Chevy Volt BMS can still be used with the Volt packs. Does anyone have any information, links, or experience doing so? Using the original designed-by-Chevy BMS may alleviate some of the concern with using a third-party BMS. Gary -----Original Message----- From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 4:22 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: EVDL Administrator <evp...@drmm.net> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Volt module details. On 7 Mar 2021 at 4:06, jerry freedomev via EV wrote: > Next the BMSs > available are not reliable and can double costs so adding them likely > would increase danger, not cut it.I've heard of 100s of BMS failures > killing modules, packs but no Volt Module failures without them. Do you know in what commercial products you find lithium batteries without a BMS? In the cheapest garbage made by dodgy Chinese sweatshops. One infamous example: the fire-starting hoverboards from a few years back. To be fair, though, what Jerry is suggesting here isn't exactly going without a BMS. He's suggesting that *you* be the BMS. That might be fine, except that humans aren't as rigorous about watching things as dedicated electronics are. We have this annoying human trait of getting inattentive and lax when nothing goes wrong for a long time. That's when you get in trouble. Now, I'm not a battery expert. But I think that it might actually MORE hazardous to manually babysit a reliable lithium battery than one that's not so reliable. Three years will go by, maybe 5, and nothing bad will happen. The battery will carry on working just about perfectly. Ho hum. You'll slack off the manual monitoring. And then ... EV batteries can supply a lot of power - several times as much as the electrical system in your home. And they have flammable material inside. Think about that for a moment. Oh, by the way, changing the subject - did y'all know that the EVDL has (ta- dah) terms of service? 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