Yes so far they really missed the boat here. Tesla tried to partner with shops but building his own would have been more lucrative
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 1:44 PM, Rod Hower via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: That's a valid point (not making money on gas) and one of the reasons there is huge potential for charging stations. If somebody stops their vehicle for 15 minutes to charge there is a good opportunity to make the stop attractive to buy items. I'm thinking of charging access at restaurants, super markets and other retail centers where they could discount the electricity if people patronize the store. On Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 01:38:48 PM EDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Sometimes I see things posted here so outrageous I *have* to respond, no matter who said it. Filling stations make virtually nothing from sale of fuel. Margins are razor thin. They make their money from other things, like selling soda or candy, or having a car wash. Sheesh! - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Mar 30, 2021, at 9:13 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > On 30 Mar 2021 at 17:11, Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote: > >> The thing is one full tank of gasoline is (at least in here) around >> $80-100. That is much more than the 40-50 kWh with normal electricity >> prices (~10c/kWh) which is only $4-5 per charge > > Thanks - I think that I see part of the problem. It sounds like the > charging companies are expecting cost percentages and revenue similar to > filling stations. > > That isn't possible yet. EV charging is a business in its infancy. The > charging companies must be patient. In the future the number of EVs will > grow (especially in EU), their use for long distance travel will increase, > and their batteries will get larger. Then of course the charging business > volume will increase. > > EV adoption can be speeded up by making charging easier and more accessable! > > In the meantime, they should have more realistic expectations, and watch > their expenses. Maybe they are paying their CEOs too much. :-) > > Perhaps what is needed is a tax credit or subsidy for the credit card fees. > >> The centrally executed (in app purchases) is doable and widely used. > > I read recently that Apple and Google take 30% of in-app purchases as their > commission. That's an outrageous amount! It can't possibly be less than > credit card fees. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Some people ask, "Why?" Others ask, "Why not?" > Then later they say, "Oh." > > -- Found on the Net > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210330/c3f11fa2/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210330/43081cfd/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org