Back in the early 2000's, Bill Moore, publisher of EV World, was in the Toyota Museum in Japan. He was speaking with the Director of the Museum and Bill asked about Toyota planning with respect to hydrogen fuel cells and electric vehicles. This was at a time when CARB was dissing EVs for Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles (HFCV). The Director told Bill that he spoke with the Chairman of the Board. The Chairman would speak with his fellow chairmen of the petroleum companies about future prices and supplies. He would then talk with his Board of Directors about planning future vehicles. The Director said that if they did not get their planning right, they would go bankrupt. Which brings up further the question of why hasn't Toyota produced an EV and why they have stayed so long with HFCVs. Even back then, knowing of the inefficiencies of hydrogen production, it was plain as day that HFCVs were not the way to go.
https://electrek.co/2020/04/23/work-on-goodenoughs-breakthrough-solid-state-ev-battery-moves-forward/ : " We start working on iron phosphate with John in 1996. It took almost 15 years for that technology to become commercially valuable." Here in the EVDL, we started to experiment with Lithium Iron Phosphate in the late 2000's(?) A123 was founded in 2001. A number of EVDL'ers bought CALB batteries. We could see the advantages of Lithium Iron Phosphate even back then. This furthers the mystery of why Toyota did not climb aboard the EV wagon? Were the Board members too polite to question the direction of the CEO? It's a puzzlement. On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:28 AM Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Toyota is a closely held business. I believe it may be owned by a family. > They were on the forefront of alternative fuels for many years, but they > stubbornly would not come out with a battery powered vehicle, until > everyone else came out with one and they basically had no choice. > > I suspect that someone has the ear of the owner (or the oldest, and thus > most influential family member,) or perhaps the owner has the an > incorrect vision of the future of the car market. > > If it were a publicly owned company, it would have long ago jumped on > the EV bandwagon. > > Having said that, the Prius hybrid came out at a time when every other > car maker thought it was a very foolish move. The Prius would not have > been built if Toyota was a publicly owned company. > > Bill D. > > On 5/19/2023 12:00 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > They seem to want to go bankrupt. Their resistance to battery EVs is > > irresponsible. It is a matter of time. They can catch up but it will take > > time. Their hydrogen side track is not helping. Lawrence Rhodes > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230519/adec9f0a/attachment.htm> > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
