I've noticed there are 2 camps: One side who views a car as an appliance
to get from A to B, and the other side who is either an enthusiast, and/or
views cars as status symbols. My father is in the first camp. I'm
somewhere in the middle, but I love technology and engineering. My father
buys base model Toyotas, because they are reliable and get him from A to B
with little fanfare. I enjoy a car with good performance and handling,
and enjoy features such as Tesla Autopilot (on the highway). It has to be
reliable, but I will spend more to have those things.
Sadly there is little profit in selling cars to the A-B crowd, so
manufacturers concentrate on the other side mainly. Lots of tech,
features, and now the trend is large touchscreens. This is even slowly
trickling down to the A-B cars too.
I also disdain the loss of Privacy, but all my Teslas have been rooted and
I removed all the upstream logging. Of course even with that I am still
fighting a losing battle. My city recently installed ALPR (License Plate)
cameras at all roads into the city, so now everyone is tracked and put into
a privately-owned national database with no oversight. I attempted to
raise objections, but the majority of sheeple in my town are glad that
these cameras are in because they "aren't doing anything wrong" and it may
help the cops catch criminals that devalue their property.
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 9:32 AM Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> David Heacock via EV wrote:
> > ...Tesla seems to think they own the vehicle even after they sell it to
> the customer.
> > ...a lot of talk about customer right to repair [but then block their
> ability to do so]
>
> It isn't just Tesla. All manufacturers are doing it. This just
> illustrates the tactics of modern marketing.
>
> - Counteract negative perceptions by loudly advertising the opposite.
> (Ads show SUVs off-road when in fact they are inept at it)
> - Badly-designed complex solutions are quicker and cheaper to design
> than well-thought-out simple ones.
> (Ford F-150 tail lights that cost $5000 to replace because it's a
> sealed assembly that includes computer modules, backup camera, etc.)
> - Customer service is expensive; so avoid it as much as possible.
> ("Your call is important to us"; then they put you on hold for an
> hour)
> - Planned obsolescence.
> (Rather than fix things, encourage customers to throw it out and
> buy
> another)
>
> > I was an early adopter of Apple computers and in the old days I always
> felt if you couldn't figure out how to use the computer for most of what it
> was capable of doing without reading the documentation it really wasn't
> what I wanted.
>
> That statement is a bit hard to understand. The early microcomputers I
> used (Apple II, Heathkit, Commodore, Atari) came with a *huge* amount of
> documentation that worked hard to explain how it worked. That was
> necessary because most people had little or no knowledge with computers.
>
> They also went out of their way to encourage the user to improve it and
> write their own programs. They were the equivalent of a Ford model T
> that came with a shop manual and a tool kit so you could fix it yourself.
>
> Today's cars are the complete opposite. They do everything possible to
> prevent you from understanding it or repairing it yourself.
>
> Lee
>
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