It is sad that Tesla has not lived up to their promises to have a $25K car available. That would be the nails in the coffin for the ICEVs. I guess they have decided that they would rather make $$$$ rather than kill ICEVs. Not just a Model X slipping into the sea at a Florida boat launch recently (look it up if you haven't read about it), but in worldwide sales.
Even though BYD sells only buses in the US, it's just about caught up with Tesla worldwide. BYD is gaining on Tesla probably because Tesla only offers large, relatively expensive EVs. BYD has a wider model range, including the sharp-looking A- segment Seagull - not available in Europe, but selling for about US$10k in China. Full story: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-byd-tesla-electric-car-ev-race-2023-11 Though I have yet to see (or at least notice) anything Chinese here other than a growing number of Dacia Springs, Chinese EV sales are reportedly growing rapidly elsewhere in the EU. In September the EU started looking into exactly how much the Chinese government is subsidizing those EVs. If they find significant "dumping," they can tack on tariffs to make up the price difference. Meanwhile, Stellantis and Renault have come out swinging with big, ambitious plans to cut their EU EV manufacturing costs and introduce more price- competitive EVs. They're aiming for well under EUR25k, and possibly under EUR20k (around US$22k). The B-segment Citroen EC3, with 320km range, is expected to go for EUR23,300 next year. A reduced range version in 2025 might be as cheap as EUR19,900. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present. -- Bill Watterson, "Calvin and Hobbes" = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ EV@lists.evdl.org For general EVDL support, see http://evdl.org/help/ http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ------------------------------ End of EV Digest, Vol 133, Issue 16 *********************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20231120/c66782f7/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
