Hi Peter,

Do you know what kind of batteries are in these Ryobi packs? I have old ones 
that are Nicad, and newer ones that are Lithium. It makes a big difference in 
how to approach rejuvenating them!

Nicad: If the pack is below a certain voltage, the charger won't even try to 
charge it. Try to charge it with a bench supply as Cor suggested. If the 
voltage comes up enough to make the Ryobi charger happy, great! Nicads aren't 
usually hurt by sitting around until a cell is dead.

If that doesn't work, my nicad packs had screws, so I could open them up and 
look for bad cells. Nicads have a tendency to fail shorted if the voltage 
across them is reversed. In a series string, the "good" cells can force current 
through the "dead" cells and damage them. This happens if you keep using the 
drill etc. even after one or more cells is dead (i.e. when the tool slows down 
noticeably.

Sometimes you can temporarily "fix" a shorted cell by applying a *momentary* 
pulse of high current (an amp or so). If the pulse causes the voltage across 
that cell to rise, then you can continue recharging it normally (at a current 
of 1/10th of its amphour capacity for 8-10 hours).

If the dead cell's voltage does *not* come up after a few such pulses, the cell 
is shorted and must be replaced. Even if such a cell does recover, it often has 
reduced capacity and an excessively high self-discharge rate; so it's usually 
best to replace it anyway for best reliability.

Lithium: If a lithium pack has too low a voltage to charge, try Cor's technique 
with a bench supply. My Ryobi lithium packs are sealed, so I haven't been able 
to get inside (without ruining them) to see what kind of cells are inside, or 
whether they can be repaired or replaced.

Be very careful when experimenting with lithium cells! They can start fires 
which are very hard to put out!

Lee
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Sent: Dec 10, 2023 6:05 PM
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Cc: Peter Eckhoff <evd...@gmail.com>
Subject: [EVDL] Battery Testers

I have a few Ryobi power packs that won't charge. This got me to
thinking I would like to get into trouble shooting and battery
testing. I've found a few sites on Youtube that discuss trouble
shooting and battery testing. A number of sites use a Atorch DL24 [P]
such as this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQQJHwC4hOY&amp;t=20s

Are there any battery testers that you have used and could recommend?
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