Bill & Phil - Great Ideas!
If inspector 13 makes me put in a GFCI for a add on 14/50 (when we install free solar), I'll go to 14/60 or just hardwire in an EVSE (although $600 instead of the cheap portable one that comes with the EV). Virginia has held onto 2017 NEC Code for some reason - and hasn't required it - yet. Have a renewable energy day, Mark Mark E. Hanson 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell REEVA: community service RE & EV project club Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV Installer My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh REEVA Demo: <http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0> http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd89 75b8d/signature> Fincastle Solar Weather Station Message: 2 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:03:24 -0700 From: "(-Phil-)" <p...@ingineerix.com <mailto:p...@ingineerix.com> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEMA 14-60? (was: NEMA 14-50 Receptacles for EVSE, EV Charging) Message-ID: <CAHenfdo4aEbecZmxf=u2BqG=k92j61t-x6das6q1z0inevu...@mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAHenfdo4aEbecZmxf=u2BqG=k92j61t-x6das6q1z0inevu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I suppose you could also install a 14-60 outlet and just cut the bottom (neutral) pin off your EVSE's 14-50 plug. I've done that on many 14-50 portable EVSE plugs, then it fits in a 14-30 Dryer outlet too. (this pin is not used on EVSEs) Just be sure and de-rate the breaker for safety. (Allowed under code) On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 4:58?PM Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > I think the simplest would be to install a NEMA 14-60 with a 60 amp > breaker, and swap in a NEMA 14-60 cord cap on the charger. > > If you are over 50 amps, you are exempt from the NEC GFCI > requirements, even outdoors. A bit silly, but this is what the NEC > rules say you can do.... > > You could subsequently make a 14-60 to 14-50 adapter, but that would > not be legal.... > > Bill D. > > PS > > The trip limit of 5 mA on a North American GFCI is just plain silly. > The rest of the world sets the trip limit to 30 mA for GFCI (or > "Residual Current", as it is called elsewhere.) Hospitals, daycare > centers, and the like, have lower trip limits, which makes sense in > those specific locations. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240414/e87e6631/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
