It's always a good idea to use a Hardwired EVSE if you are going to do daily charging on it. Safer and more durable (and usually less loss). Trying to save a few bucks by using a portable EVSE is not worth it.
On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 7:23 PM Mark E. Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Bill & Phil - Great Ideas! > > > > If inspector 13 makes me put in a GFCI for a add on 14/50 (when we install > free solar), I'll go to 14/60 or just hardwire in an EVSE (although $600 > instead of the cheap portable one that comes with the EV). Virginia has > held onto 2017 NEC Code for some reason - and hasn't required it - yet. > > > > Have a renewable energy day, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark E. Hanson > > 184 Vista Lane > > Fincastle, VA 24090 > > 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell > > REEVA: community service RE & EV project club > > Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) > > UL Certified PV Installer > > My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh > > REEVA Demo: <http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0> http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 > > > < > https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd89 > 75b8d/signature > <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd8975b8d/signature>> > Fincastle Solar Weather Station > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:03:24 -0700 > > From: "(-Phil-)" <p...@ingineerix.com <mailto:p...@ingineerix.com> > > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org > <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEMA 14-60? (was: NEMA 14-50 Receptacles for EVSE, > > EV Charging) > > Message-ID: > > > <CAHenfdo4aEbecZmxf=u2BqG=k92j61t-x6das6q1z0inevu...@mail.gmail.com > <mailto:CAHenfdo4aEbecZmxf=u2BqG=k92j61t-x6das6q1z0inevu...@mail.gmail.com > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I suppose you could also install a 14-60 outlet and just cut the bottom > > (neutral) pin off your EVSE's 14-50 plug. I've done that on many 14-50 > > portable EVSE plugs, then it fits in a 14-30 Dryer outlet too. (this pin > > is not used on EVSEs) Just be sure and de-rate the breaker for safety. > > (Allowed under code) > > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 4:58?PM Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org > <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > > I think the simplest would be to install a NEMA 14-60 with a 60 amp > > > breaker, and swap in a NEMA 14-60 cord cap on the charger. > > > > > > If you are over 50 amps, you are exempt from the NEC GFCI > > > requirements, even outdoors. A bit silly, but this is what the NEC > > > rules say you can do.... > > > > > > You could subsequently make a 14-60 to 14-50 adapter, but that would > > > not be legal.... > > > > > > Bill D. > > > > > > PS > > > > > > The trip limit of 5 mA on a North American GFCI is just plain silly. > > > The rest of the world sets the trip limit to 30 mA for GFCI (or > > > "Residual Current", as it is called elsewhere.) Hospitals, daycare > > > centers, and the like, have lower trip limits, which makes sense in > > > those specific locations. > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240414/e87e6631/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240414/9f3026b8/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
