So, if "permanently" means "hard wired", then this code would be mostly
moot. Plenty of plug-in choices to avoid dealing with the meaning of
"qualified".
I, too, am wondering what "qualified" means.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Cor van de Water" <[email protected]>
Sent: 22-May-25 23:17:05
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Proposed 2026 code requires "qualified" persons for
EV charger installation
Bryce, Peri,
Note the qualifier in the requirement:
*Permanently* installed electric vehicle power transfer system equipment
shall be installed by qualified persons.
So, this does not include plug-in EVSE with a NEMA plug, only
"hard-wired" chargers.
I am a bit surprised, in that I was under the impression that it was a
requirement much longer to have a qualified person such as
electrician, install hard-wired equipment, or someone who is allowed
to do house wiring, which under certain circumstances can be the
homeowner doing installation work on their own home.
BTW, is there a description of what constitutes a "qualified" person?
I seem to recall a discussion long ago while I was developing the
JuiceBox 2 Charging Station that we came across the requirement,
either in NEC or UL standards that a certain thing required a
qualified person and then one of my colleagues spoke up and explained
that in order to avoid blowing up a push for better quality
installations, that he had proposed to put the "weasel-word" qualified
into the text, so that it suggested that a licensed electrician is
required to do the work, without actually saying that, so that there
is wiggle room for homeowner-installers and other exceptions without
violating the letter of the standard. But that discussion was a long
time ago, so don't hold me to that here, just let us all know if there
is a definition of "qualified" - that should tell the story.
Cor.
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 10:02 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
It's my understanding that most of the EVSE level 2 charges come with a
NEMA plug, as opposed to being wired in a j-box. Does the new code not
allow a homeowner to plug in an EVSE to an existing 240V outlet ? Is the
homeowner allowed to obtain an electrical permit to run power to a 240V
outlet, regardless of the ultimate use of that outlet ?
I find it hard to believe that the code would prevent that. I presume
the code allows home owners to plug in electric ranges and dryers.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Bryce Nesbitt via EV" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: "Bryce Nesbitt" <[email protected]>
Sent: 22-May-25 19:30:10
Subject: [EVDL] Proposed 2026 code requires "qualified" persons for EV
charger installation
>This is my first post to this list, giving it a go.
>Like probably several other people on this list I installed my own EV
>charger at my home, in this case in Berkeley California.
>---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>For work I inspect homes and apartments, so I am wary of bad
>electrical work, but I find that from pros as well as DIYers. In my
>area any homeowner can pull an express permit for EVSE install, and
>get a professional inspection of the work, which seems a good balance.
>
>But that could change. The new code will essentially block permit
>offices from accepting permit requests by anyone not "qualified". And
>it's up for vote on June 19th 2025 in Las Vegas.
>
>
>NEC DRAFT 625.4 Qualified Persons.
>Permanently installed electric vehicle power transfer system equipment
>shall be installed by qualified persons.
>
>Informational Note: See NECA 413-2024, Standard for Installing and
>Maintaining Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment (EVSE), or other ANSI
>approved installation standards.
>
>Committee Statement: This requirement was added to ensure that only
>qualified persons install permanently installed EVSE. The
>informational note was added for reference.
>Response Message: SR-7853-NFPA 70-2024
>Submitter Full Name: Jeff Noren
>Organization: National Electrical Contractors Association NECA
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