Yes, but calling DCFC "Level 3" is still incorrect. Also, the "overhead" is mainly in the EV. For instance most Teslas have from 100-250W depending on model just to be awake. (Computers, Pumps, DC-DC converter, etc)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 3:43 AM EV--- via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > More from the 2017 SAE Spec on Level 3 > > Definition: AC Level 3 – A charging method that uses dedicated electric > vehicle supply equipment in either private or public locations. The > vehicle shall be fitted with an on-board charger capable of accepting > energy from an AC supply network at a nominal voltage of 208 and 240 V > AC and a maximum current of 400 A. > > Rush Dougherty > TucsonEV > > On 6/10/2025 11:57 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > There's also technically no such thing as "Level 3". All EU charging > is > > > Level 2. > > > > The Oct 2017 J1772 SAE Specifications does talk about Level 3 in > > 'Appendix M - Level 3 Charging' on page 107, but I have never seen it > > implemented. > > > > Table 17 - Charging mode characteristics > > EVSE Type EVSE > > Input EVSE > > Output EVSE Vehicle Control Method Charger > > Location Charger > > Location Power > > Max. > > AC Level 2 208-240 V AC 208-240 V AC SAE J1772™ Pilot > Vehicle > > Vehicle 11.5 kW > > AC Level 3 208-240 V AC 208-240 V AC SAE J1772™ Pilot > Vehicle > > Vehicle 96 kW > > DC Charging 208-600 V 0-1000 V DC SAE J1772™ and SAE J2293 > EVSE > > EVSE 400 kW > > > > I don't have the latest SAE Spec so it may have been deleted. > > > > By the way did you see that BYD had a 3 to 1 stock split today? It > > will be distributed on 7/29. > > > > Best > > > > Rush Dougherty > > TucsonEV > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20250611/5c5db210/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20250611/62144c66/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
