Also, TCO usually means "we couldn't find any other way to justify the cost of our product, and we're taking a beating in the market right now, so we made up* this totally arbitrary calculation that shows our competitor as being harder to use / weird to set up / too communist."
* aka. "paid a company to make charts" At least that's what usually happens when Microsoft starts touting TCO numbers. ;) -- Alexander Limi ยท http://limi.net On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] < ken.wase...@contextualcorp.com> wrote: > Virginia, > > I had mentioned this Sharepoint cost calculator link when adding to > Francesco's blog post comparing Plone and Sharepoint too. Besides the cost > factor, it couldn't hurt you to re-read his (two-part?) blog post regarding > the Plone vs. Sharepoint comparison. > http://francescociriaci.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/plone-vs-moss-round-1/ > > I had helped a for-profit university evaluate commercial CMS tools a few > years ago and they chose RedDot. At the time, the price for their > .Net-based CMS plus their Java-based personalized portal delivery engine, > plus a 'Quick Start' where a small portion of the website was > themed/implemented was to run about $330K in US$. > > Teamsite was in that evaluation as well, and their offering is broken up > into many modules, so it's harder to compare, but this client would have > paid a bit more for what they needed from IWOV than what the RedDot (now > OpenText) price was, even. Probably not a lot more, though. > > Seems like the bigger players such as Autonomy/Interwoven/Teamsite, > OpenText/Vignette, etc. are in the 350-500K US$ range by the time you buy > licenses for not only your production servers, but also development and/or > staging. > > Not to mention that the per-hour integrator rates I was seeing were in the > $175+/hr range US$, which is 30-40% more than most Plone shops will charge. > > Plus, you should build a comparison that looks at year 2, 3, etc. With the > commercial tools, the client will be paying 20%/year of license cost just to > keep up with patches/upgrades, no on-site services, just emergency support, > access to the online knowledge base, forums, etc. > If you do a 3-year Total Cost of Ownership comparison, I can't imagine the > other tools, even Sharepoint, coming close to Plone on a financial basis, > but others would disagree. > > -Ken > > > Nate Aune wrote: > >> i don't know about Reddot or Teamsite, but the Sharepoint calculator can >> be used to determine the total cost of ownership if you have to buy all the >> user licenses and software licenses for the other dependent Microsoft >> products. >> >> http://community.bamboosolutions.com/blogs/sharepoint-price-calculator/default.aspx >> >> found via Cynapse blog: >> http://www.cynapse.com/blog/cynin-low-cost-alternative-sharepoint >> >> Nate >> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Virginia Choy <virgi...@pretaweb.com<mailto: >> virgi...@pretaweb.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> Does anyone have any documentation about total cost of ownership >> or general cost comparisons between deploying Plone, Sharepoint, >> Teamsite,, RedDot or any other proprietary enterprise solution? >> >> >> Thanks Virginia >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Virginia Choy >> Business Development Manager >> PretaWeb - Plone Open Source Enterprise Web Solutions >> Suite 2, Level 6, 99 York Street, Sydney 2000 NSW Australia >> P: 612-8081-9072 >> M: 0423-198-306 >> W: www.pretaweb.com <http://www.pretaweb.com> >> >> Sales & Support: 02-9955-2830 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org <mailto:Evangelism@lists.plone.org> >> >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com <mailto:na...@jazkarta.com> >> >> http://www.jazkarta.com >> http://card.ly/natea >> http://tungle.me/natea >> +1 (617) 517-4953 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >
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