On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Matt Hamilton <ma...@netsight.co.uk>wrote:
> > On 20 Apr 2011, at 08:24, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > > Historically Plone has had poor reception at Europython. I think this is > mainly because it is not the 'cool new thing'. I mean, it is a bit boring > really... we have been around a while, we have solved all the hard problems, > we have a great community and we did NoSQL 10 years ago. The Plone community > just get on and do things. An interesting example is that two years ago > there were *loads* of talks about Django on the agenda. The following year, > just one. > that's explaining my whole point when i say: "plone is no more perceived as a cutting edge technology" :) *If* I go to Europython this year, and hoping to do the Lightning talk that > I didn't get to do last year, which was 'From python to Plone in 3 minutes' > in which I will do a live demo of going from a plain python 2.6 install to > Plone 4 up and running in 3 minutes. we should push this in a "nice" video format (a screencast or something..) on the "python community channels" someway ;) also, we could push this on plone.org (or I'm missing it if it's already there..) > I still think a lot of people are wary of Zope/Plone as it still has a bad > reputation from before when it was a big monolithic thing you had to swallow > whole. +1 I think that senior python programmers are negative biased about plone (and zope) as they were ages ago, and they tend to pull on their side python new-comers. That's why i'm sad, and why i think that a Plone booth at such event could help letting new people in (not rare that, after I talk a bit about plone as it is now to non-plone python developers, they say "oh really? :)" ) a plone booth could push a message like: "Professional web content management with Python? Let's Plone!" > I'm hoping that Pyramid goes some way to helping alleviate these fears as > it is taking a lot of the technology we know and trust and putting it in > front of a new audience. > +1 Maurizio -- Maurizio Delmonte - [maurizio.delmo...@abstract.it <bruno.r...@abstract.it>] Abstract Open Solutions [http://www.abstract.it] Tel: +39 081 06 08 213 Fax: +39 081 01 12 239 ** Per favore non mandatemi allegati in Word o PowerPoint! | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.it.html ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ai sensi del d.lgs. 196 del 30 giugno 2003, recante disposizioni per la tutela delle persone e di altri soggetti rispetto al trattamento dei dati personali, si precisa che questa email è inviata unicamente ai destinatari sopra esposti, con espressa diffida di leggerla, copiarla, diffonderla ed usarla senza autorizzazione. Se avete ricevuto questa email per errore, vi preghiamo di distruggerla immediatamente e contattarci tramite uno dei recapiti sopra indicati. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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