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-----Original Message-----
From: CMR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Joao Leao
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: Something for Platonists
shameless indeed....
Cheers
CMR
<--enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-->
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joao Leao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen Paul King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Something for Platonists
>
> Dear Stephen,
>
> Given that, were it not for Plato the question you ask me would not
> make sense and could not probably be formulated, I should not have to
> answer it.
>
&g! t; If that is what you driving at: Mathematical Realism or Platonism is
> not a religion, but a conviction which most working mathematician have
> been reasonably led to in their practice. As for physicists it is a
> prejudice that most share but few find a need to confess. My only
> distinction is that I am quite shameless about it...
>
> -Joao
>
>
> Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
> > Dear Joao,
> >
> > Is this the statement of a person that bases their belief in
> > faith
or
> > reason?
> >
> > Sincerly,
> >
> > Stephen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joao Leao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Lennart Nilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Everything List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: F! w: Something for Platonists
> >
> > > Speaking as a devout Platonist I see nothing much to contemplate
> > > in Deutsch's statement! Whether the Universe is computable, as he
> > > states without argument, or the computable subrealm of the
> > > mathematical world coincides with the physical, which he believes
> > > for unstated reasons, is of no concern to me or any
> > > self-respecting Platonist. The Realm of Forms is entirely separate
> > > from the physical universe which is nothing but an inept and
> > > corrupt model of it. Our physical theories, and Deutsh's
> > > speculations are even crappier versions of that model which
> > > capture nothing but mere glimpses of the Platonic World and thus
> > > are destined to be surpassed.
> > >
> > > Computation may be indeed a fairly acceptable measure
! > > > of our ineptitude to see into Platonia: that is a plausible
> > > hypothesis. But the fact that we know of the realm of the
> > > uncomputable and that we can access its truths irrespective of our
> > > finite computational capabilities is an entirely more profound
> > > statement than any of Deutsch dubious speculations...
> > >
> > > -Joao Leao
>
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