TT:
'
> What is the philosophical term for persons like me, that totally deny 
> the existence of the consciousness?'

MP: I think the word you are looking for is "deluded".

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Torgny Tholerus wrote:
> Bruno Marchal skrev:
>> Le 04-juin-07, à 14:10, Torgny Tholerus a écrit :
>>
>>     Pain is the same thing as the pain center in the brain being
>>     stimulated.
>>
>> If you are really unconscious or not conscious, you could say this, 
>> indeed, but I hardly believe you are unconscious.
>> In the best case your theory will work for you and other "zombie". It 
>> cannot work for those who admit the 1/3 distinction or the mind/body 
>> apparent distinction.
>> You are on the fringe of being an eliminativist philosopher. What I do 
>> appreciate is that you offer your theory for yourself. Let me ask you 
>> explicitly this question, which I admit is admittedly weird to ask to 
>> a zombie, but: do you think *we* are conscious?
> I am constructed in such a way (my brain connections is such that...) I 
> very strongly claim that I am conscious, I very strongly claim that I 
> have feelings, I very strongly claim that I have a mind, I very strongly 
> claim that I have perceptions.  But I know (intellectually) that I am 
> wrong, and I know why I am wrong.
> 
> When I look at you (in 3rd person view), I see that you are constructed 
> in exactly the same way as I am.  So I know why you say that you are 
> conscious.  I know nothing sure about you, but the most probable 
> conclusion is that you are equally unconscious as I am.
> 
> What is the philosophical term for persons like me, that totally deny 
> the existence of the consciousness?
> (I also deny the existence of infinity...)
> 
> -- 
> Torgny Tholerus
> 
> 
> > 

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