SP: 'I've seen quite a few deluded people who believe that they are dead, but > no-one who thinks they're unconscious...'
MP: There is possibly a loose end or two here and perhaps clarification is needed, yet again: * It may well be that history is in the making, Torgny Tholerus is breaking new ground with Earth shaking results [sorry :-], and kudos will be yours if you can book him in first for a consultation [or dissection if it comes to that]. * Or this could conceivably be construed as a 'state of grace' in that Torgny is operating with no mental capacity being wasted on self-talk or internal commentary: 'just doing' whatever needs to be done and 'just being' what he needs to be; very Zen! * Then again it may be that I have misunderstood TT's grammar and that what he is denying is simply the separate existence of something called 'consciousness'. If that be the case then I would not argue because I agree that the subjective impression of being here now is simply what it is like to be part of the processing the brain does, ie updating the model of self in the world. * But I agree also that you are highly unlikely to come across someone who can truthfully say 'I am not conscious'. It seems totally self-contradictory: for example a person not just with 'hemi' neglect, but total neglect. How could such a person encounter themselves or the world? Or is there the possibility of something like so-called blindsight in every sensory modality? For example: deaf-hearing, numb-sensing, proprio-non-ception? This would imply a zombie [without 'a life'] which survived by making apparently random guesses about everything yet getting significantly more than chance success in each modality. A scary thought! Regards Mark Peaty CDES [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/ Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On 09/06/07, *Mark Peaty* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:' > > > What is the philosophical term for persons like me, that totally deny > > the existence of the consciousness?' > > MP: I think the word you are looking for is "deluded". > > > > I've seen quite a few deluded people who believe that they are dead, but > no-one who thinks they're unconscious... something to keep an eye out for. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
