Le 08-juin-07, à 18:39, Jef Allbright a écrit :
> While I would point out that physics cannot possibly explain > everything, being a necessarily constrained subjective model of > "reality", I would like to reinforce the point about "consciousness." > Consciousness certainly exists, as a description relating a set of > observations having to do with subjective awareness, but there is > nothing requiring that we assign it the status of an ontological > entity. The importance of being precise! Now I agree with you, although I did disagree with your answer to Torgny. BTW distinguishing subjective awareness and consciousness is a 1004-fallacy ... at this stage. Also, to say that consciousness exists as a description could be misleading. It could exist as a phenomenon. I don't believe that people in this list would take consciousness as a primary reality, except perhaps those who singles out the third "universal soul" hypostasis (the first person, alias the one described by Bp & p in the lobian interview) like George Levy, David, etc. With comp neither matter nor mind can be taken as primitive or primary reality. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---