On 04/07/07, David Nyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TT: This B-Universe looks exactly the same as A-Universe. > > DN: IMO your thought experiment might as well stop right here. No universe > can "look" like anything to anyone except a participant in it - i.e. an > 'observer' who is an embedded sub-structure of that universe. The "looking" > that you refer to here is an illusory artefact of syntax - i.e. the relation > is to an imaginative construct which in fact is part of A-Universe. IOW > this sort of 'existence' is a metaphor which is relative to *us*, not the > self-relation of any realisable B-Universe. What you describe as B-Universe > "looking exactly the same" is really an implicit relation to an observer in > *that* universe, and consequently that observer is already accepted as > conscious. Alternatively, it doesn't "look" like anything to anyone, and > hence is by no stretch of the imagination "exactly the same".
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