Hi, 2009/8/7 Torgny Tholerus <tor...@dsv.su.se>: > > Bruno Marchal skrev: >> >> Then it is not "RITSIAR" in the sense of the discussion with David. >> Real in the sense that "I" am real. is ambiguous. >> Either the "I" refers to my first person, and then I have ontological >> certainty. >> As I said on FOR, I can conceive that I wake up and realize that >> quark, planet, galaxies and even my body were not real. I cannot >> conceive that I wake up and realize that my consciousness is not real. >> > > When I woke up this morning, I realized that my consciousness was not > real...
Like before... If you are a zombie, the sentence above has no meaning... (there exists no 'I') and if you're not, either you're deluded or you 're lying ;) Regards, Quentin > -- > Torgny Tholerus > > > > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---