On 29 Aug 2009, at 20:34, Flammarion wrote:
> > > > On 28 Aug, 18:02, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:58, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >> If the physical laws are turing emulable, then whatever is >> responsible >> for my consciousness can be Turing emulable at some level (I assume >> some form of naturalism/materialism or computationalism).OK? If not, >> your brain (generalized or not) does not obeys to the laws of >> physics. > > That may buy you no more than "mere" simulation. The CTM is a > stronger claim than the computability of physics. it means that you > will > get actual implementation (strong AI) and not just simulation (weak > AI) In that sense, I am OK here. Actually strong AI is even weaker than CTM. My reconstitution can believe wrongly that he is me, yet conscious. But I was assuming some naturalism here, and if the physical laws are computable, and I still say no to the doctor, then my identity is no more defined by the computation, but by the actual matter which constitutes me, and then comp (CTM) is no more correct (although strong AI could still be correct). Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---