Hi,

The word "planned" would seem to signify that there exists a mechanism (used the the most generic way) that selects that the object of the plan was chosen from a collection of possible alternatives with a bias that is not necessarily on that is "natural" and thus implies the existence of agency. So to say that "X has been made according to the plan" is to say that those properties of X result from a means that involves consciousness and thus that hypothesis requires the prior existence of a agent to act as the planner. The alternative hypothesis given, "X originated naturally." seems to not require agency but no measure is implied by either as to the number of entities involved so it seems that Occam's razor is unable to select one of these hypotheses to cut.
   This looks to me like a false choice fallacy in the making.

Onward!

Stephen

-----Original Message----- From: Evgenii Rudnyi
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Against Mechanism

on 27.11.2010 22:19 Brent Meeker said the following:
On 11/27/2010 11:21 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
on 27.11.2010 20:08 1Z said the following:


On Nov 27, 6:49 pm, Rex Allen<rexallen31...@gmail.com> wrote:

Given that there are an infinite number of ways that your
information could be represented, how likely is it that your
experience really is caused by a biological brain? Or even by
a representation of a biological brain?

Occam's razor: BIV, matrix and other sceptical scenarios are
always more complex, and therefore less likely than "things are
the way they seem to be"

Could you please tell what a hypothesis you consider as less
complex?

As for Occam's razor. Let us consider the statement "The God has
created everything". Is this more or less complex as compared with
the modern scientific view?

It is more complex than, "Things originated naturally." If you try to
 fill in the details to the same degree in each you have to first
fill in all the details of "Things originated naturally." and *then*
all the details of how God decided on doing that and how He executed
his plan.

Okay, but what then about the next two statements: "A car originated
naturally" and "A car has been made according to the plan". What
statement is more complex?

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